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Alistair Overeem predicts Cain Velasquez will win title from Junior dos Santos - MMAmania.com

For his money, the "Demolition Man" tells MMAInterviews.tv (via FightCove.com) he believes he'll be squaring off against Cain Velasquez when the time comes:

"I think Cain is going to do good in this next fight. I think he might even get the belt. I think he's going to get the belt. I thought so the first time then he lost the belt, but I think this time could be different. I would not be fighting dos Santos for the belt, but then Cain."

VIDEO: Junior Dos Santos Predicts Second-Round KO Of Cain Velasquez, Talks Overeem And Sonnen - FightCove.com

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by optimusjoel

I see what your doing there

Oh....NOW your perspective makes perfect sense!

The last time lesnar looked like a top 10 fighter was summer of 2009, so OF COURSE he should have a solid top 3 ranking two-and-a-half-years later at the very end of 2011.

PERFECT LOGIC!


I stand corrected.




If they fought tomorrow, Kongo would take lesnar's lunch money.

And spend it on candy, which he'd eat in front of brock and wouldn't give him any, no matter how hard brock cried.

rh

[optimusjoel]

Originally Posted by rivethead

Oh....NOW your perspective makes perfect sense!

The last time lesnar looked like a top 10 fighter was summer of 2009, so OF COURSE he should have a solid top 3 ranking two-and-a-half-years later at the very end of 2011.

PERFECT LOGIC!


I stand corrected.




If they fought tomorrow, Kongo would take lesnar's lunch money.

And spend it on candy, which he'd eat in front of brock and wouldn't give him any, no matter how hard brock cried.

rh

I think the reason why you argue everything to death is because you automatically have this elitist perception over anyone who disagrees with you. Ranking Brock top 3 when fighting AO would be dumb, so I'm not sure where exactly your coming from saying that I would think that. But ranking him lower top 10 maybe a lil outside the top 10 would be just about right. I thought he looked good in the Cain fight, a lot of his punches barely missed. But you know I'm an idiot cause I disagree with having Kongo, who at the time only was crushing cans and losing to good fighters, ranked the same.
I'm just wasting my time.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by optimusjoel

I'm just wasting my time.

Clearly.

I've already said you don't have to agree with me, it doesn't matter to me. But you apparently needed to continue to point out where you thought I was wrong, while simultaneously misinterpreting what I'd actually stated.

In a case like that, I'm going to clarify myself. It doesn't have anything to do with being elitist--which I'll admit, I clearly am--it has to do with being clear when someone wildly misinterprets what I've stated, or fails to understand it.

rh

[MIZjitsZOU]

Originally Posted by rivethead

If they fought tomorrow, Kongo would take lesnar's lunch money.

And spend it on candy, which he'd eat in front of brock and wouldn't give him any, no matter how hard brock cried.

rh

Agree with most of what you are saying except this. Kongo would get taken down and pounded the f out. Now if you took a stipe miocic as an example I would agree. Kongo know, he would get worked to easily imo on the ground.

I don't know much about technical wrestling, so back in the day when I argued with you about lesnar's wrestling pedigree I back pedal a bit (although he did win a ncaa champ). Even if he misses the initial takedown I think he drives kongo from one side of the cage to the other and gets him down.

Who is Kongo fighting next?

[AnchorPunch]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

Agree with most of what you are saying except this. Kongo would get taken down and pounded the f out. Now if you took a stipe miocic as an example I would agree. Kongo know, he would get worked to easily imo on the ground.

I don't know much about technical wrestling, so back in the day when I argued with you about lesnar's wrestling pedigree I back pedal a bit (although he did win a ncaa champ). Even if he misses the initial takedown I think he drives kongo from one side of the cage to the other and gets him down.

Who is Kongo fighting next?

I don't think Kongo is lined up for anyone. He just turned down a replacement fight, though I can't remember who, stating personal problems. He was also contemplating shoulder surgery after his last fight, so I'm not sure when he'll be back.

Also, I agree that Lesnar would beat Kongo, I actually think it would be very one sided. I still see Lesnar's grappling as being pretty solid, I think his biggest holes came from overcommitting and being overly aggressive. He never seemed to find his rhythm in fights. And I see his blitzes as being less Vitor-like or more school kid who freaks out. Shame he never got used to the game.

That said, I'd actually like to see a Kongo/Browne rematch. Although, I suspect I'm very alone in that view.

[optimusjoel]

Originally Posted by rivethead

Clearly.

I've already said you don't have to agree with me, it doesn't matter to me. But you apparently needed to continue to point out where you thought I was wrong, while simultaneously misinterpreting what I'd actually stated.

In a case like that, I'm going to clarify myself. It doesn't have anything to do with being elitist--which I'll admit, I clearly am--it has to do with being clear when someone wildly misinterprets what I've stated, or fails to understand it.

rh

Exactly what I expected you to write, I clearly don't understand you because I disagree. I would say I feel sorry for your wife but I suspect she runs the show.

[Sakara=Excitement]

I'm under the belief that Overeem should have to fight someone first before a title shot. But make his fight the #1 contenders match.

[macewen]

I'm glad ao just wants to fight. he could be saying he is just gonna wait, yeah he cheatex, did his time, now lets see what clean (jopefully) reem has

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

Agree with most of what you are saying except this. Kongo would get taken down and pounded the f out. Now if you took a stipe miocic as an example I would agree. Kongo know, he would get worked to easily imo on the ground.

I don't know much about technical wrestling, so back in the day when I argued with you about lesnar's wrestling pedigree I back pedal a bit (although he did win a ncaa champ). Even if he misses the initial takedown I think he drives kongo from one side of the cage to the other and gets him down.

Who is Kongo fighting next?

I don't think lesnar would be able to do that without eating big punches to the face. That's probably just me, but I think Kongo has the reach and mediocre TDD, I think he hurts lesnar before brock has the chance to impose his will.

And a lot of that is that I feel brock's heart isn't in it anymore. He knows he's not among the elite fighters anymore, and I feel his history shows that if he can't be the best at something, he quits.

Originally Posted by optimusjoel

Exactly what I expected you to write, I clearly don't understand you because I disagree. I would say I feel sorry for your wife but I suspect she runs the show.

That's cute, because I expected you to reply without any actual support for your perspective, and to resort to weak insults.

My wife said to tell you she's smarter than you too, and she's sorry for whichever women have standards low enough to allow you to touch them.

I told her she was making a lot of assumptions with statements like that...but that I didn't doubt was that she was more intelligent then you.

rh