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[BonesKnows]

Originally Posted by disposableassassin

All valid arguments nullified by the fact that this fight was like a minute long. I looked it up it was way longer than I thought initially. It was a whole minute and four seconds. Anybody could have had the lights turned off by that punch in that time period. I'm calling sour grapes and an attempt to start drumming up interest with the casual fan for the rematch.

I still say Cain could have been in the best shape of his career and still got ko'd by that punch. It was just a minute. There was no time to prove anything. Like GSP/Serra. He ate a big punch and got layed out.

I'm not saying that he didn't have a legitimate injury I'm just saying jds could have caught god with that shot in under a minute and dropped him.

Oh yeah and wasn't jake shooting for a sloppy single when he ate that knee? Shit happens. Cain was looking for the chance to start his rhythm when BAM the lights go out. No shame in it. The shame comes in not accepting it and moving on.

100% right about JDS putting even god away with that punch, i was just saying that some fans are quick to write stuff like this off even if it was indeed true

In Cains defense he did accept it, i guess fitch hasnt? lol

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

100% right about JDS putting even god away with that punch, i was just saying that some fans are quick to write stuff like this off even if it was indeed true

In Cains defense he did accept it, i guess fitch hasnt? lol

to me this looks more like trying to undersell the outcome of the last fight to garner interest and say that the rematch will be different. i'm not writing off on the possibility that cain possibly had a legitimate injury going into the fight. all i am doing is downplaying the fact that it played much into the outcome. unlike fitch i'm not trying to help sell my buddies next fight. from an objective stanpoint i am certain that there was no way the knee had time to come into play. look at the cain/kongo fight. cain got nailed right at the outset of the fight. to me it seems like cain is hard to beat once he starts rolling, but seems succeptable before he starts his momentum going.

[rivethead]

One of the things I love about MMA is that on any given night, anything can happen. A Matt Serra can cause a Georges St. Pierre to tap to strikes. A Ryo Chonan can flying heel-hook an Anderson Silva.

One of the things I hate about today's MMA is that ignorant fans do not want rematches, and thus diva fighters and zuffa are disinclined to host them.

I hear stuff about injuries, and I want to see a rematch. At least this time, I won't be disappointed.

rh

[BonesKnows]

Originally Posted by rivethead

One of the things I love about MMA is that on any given night, anything can happen. A Matt Serra can cause a Georges St. Pierre to tap to strikes. A Ryo Chonan can flying heel-hook an Anderson Silva.


rh

And thats why people shouldnt write chael off in the Jones fight (and to answer your next question, yes i am beating a dead horse with this one )

[disposableassassin]

Originally Posted by rivethead

One of the things I love about MMA is that on any given night, anything can happen. A Matt Serra can cause a Georges St. Pierre to tap to strikes. A Ryo Chonan can flying heel-hook an Anderson Silva.

One of the things I hate about today's MMA is that ignorant fans do not want rematches, and thus diva fighters and zuffa are disinclined to host them.

I hear stuff about injuries, and I want to see a rematch. At least this time, I won't be disappointed.

rh

I don't mind this rematch. It was over in the blink of an eye. Both fighters are capable of so much more. A part of me would like to see how JDS' heart holds up if Cain goes to town on him for a couple of rounds. This fight could be totally different than the last one or very similar. As I said I feel like aim is much more vulnerable in the opening minutes of a fight but once he starts a Rollin he's hard to stop. I don't hate all rematches. Definitely not this one.

[dbader08]

Originally Posted by rivethead

One of the things I love about MMA is that on any given night, anything can happen. A Matt Serra can cause a Georges St. Pierre to tap to strikes. A Ryo Chonan can flying heel-hook an Anderson Silva.

One of the things I hate about today's MMA is that ignorant fans do not want rematches, and thus diva fighters and zuffa are disinclined to host them.

I hear stuff about injuries, and I want to see a rematch. At least this time, I won't be disappointed.

rh

I agree.

I love this rematch just like I loved the Edgar rematches. I think Cain wins their next fight ( I say next because I think there will be more.)

[Pasha K]

Well first of all Cigano also had a knee injury, so both of them were not in their 100%.

Secondly I think that the injuries had nothing to do with the result. Cigano punches very hard, and he connected a very huge punch to Cain's ear. Then he finished him with GnP.

The fight lasted only 1 minute, and most certainly this time it is going to last longer. However injuries can not denie the fact that JDS is a much better striker than Cain, just as Cain is a better wrestler than Junior. (However we do not know how much better he is, we have not seen JDS on the ground yet)

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

And thats why people shouldnt write chael off in the Jones fight (and to answer your next question, yes i am beating a dead horse with this one )

I'm not asking you a next question. It's pretty clear that you want your boy to get a squash match.

I'm not saying the fact that Serra got to fight GSP [or an overweight Lutter got to fight Anderson] were ever justified, they weren't; and at the time it was nonsense. But it's the best of a bad situation: My point was that there are more variables in MMA than there are in other combat sports, so it's at least slightly more interesting than it could be, otherwise.

But that doesn't justify sonnen/Jones, it just makes an utter fail of an idea into a D-.

rh

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by Fe1

Just like Fitch losing to Hendrix, it was because of the injury. Getting punched in the head really fucking hard had nothing to do with it.

This is exactly why fighters shouldn't fight injured. The fan backlash is narley.

Originally Posted by rivethead

One of the things I love about MMA is that on any given night, anything can happen. A Matt Serra can cause a Georges St. Pierre to tap to strikes. A Ryo Chonan can flying heel-hook an Anderson Silva.

One of the things I hate about today's MMA is that ignorant fans do not want rematches, and thus diva fighters and zuffa are disinclined to host them.

I hear stuff about injuries, and I want to see a rematch. At least this time, I won't be disappointed.

rh

Some "ignorant" fans simply like to see other fighters get a chance to see if they can do any better. A rematch can come later on down the road.

You lose you get to the back of the line and thats how it SHOULD be.

If you were waiting an hour in line to get on one of those water rides in Six Flags you would be mad as fuck if someone who just went cut infront of you. You would probably be one of the 1st people telling them to get their asses to the back of the line. It's no different in MMA.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

narley.