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Old 11-12-2012, 01:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yeah, I think he's playing us. Seeing how we're hanging off every word, I think it's working! Didn't think it was possible but I'm more intrigued for Saturday and what happens post fight if GSP dominates.

If indeed he is taking the year off then the UFC needs to get down to the bottom of his intentions. If he has no intention of defending the middleweight title going forward then they need to talk him into publicly vacating it or set up an interm title (Even though, I despise them). They already have the brackets set up for a mini tournament, just need to make it official. The optics of all scenarios are terrible but stripping him, I feel, is the worst. No matter what, the new middleweight champion is going to be considered the most neutered paper champion in the history of the UFC having not beaten Silva for it. Stripping the greatest fighter in the history the UFC would be a terrible business decision and will serve to only weaken the perception of the new champ, Silva and the UFC. Nobody wins in that scenario.

Here's some hypothetical thoughts for you guys: If they create an interm middleweight champion does Chael get an automatic title shot after losing to Jones?
What else do you do with a champion who wont defend his belt? I think it would add a ton of credit to the ufc, by showing that it doesnt matter who you are, a champion defends their title. Do we want another SF HW champion situation?
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Can't believe I'm agreeing with something v3xi said, but GSP did say awhile ago if he was going to fight above his class he would need time to properly put weight on. I think Silva has two purposes here. One setting up a higher payday, and two giving GSP time to put his weight on the way he wants. The only fight I see Silva taking in MW is possibly Bisping easy and good sales.

I'm also for fight by April or a interim belt is fought for, and still not fought for by September he's stripped and the interim is now the real belt.
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What else do you do with a champion who wont defend his belt? I think it would add a ton of credit to the ufc, by showing that it doesnt matter who you are, a champion defends their title. Do we want another SF HW champion situation?
Ya whats that called the AO title defense system
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Relinquish your title Anderson. It's ok to be scared of the young lions when you are an old man.
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What else do you do with a champion who wont defend his belt? I think it would add a ton of credit to the ufc, by showing that it doesnt matter who you are, a champion defends their title. Do we want another SF HW champion situation?
Well, obviously if it becomes a situation like with Overeem in Strikeforce they'll have to cross that road, mind you we are FAR from that point. The division and the sport can wait a year for Silva to defend. The middleweight division is murky when it comes to a true number one contender, this will give it some time to settle that. It gives GSP time to defend his belt one more time and start putting on the weight properly if they go that route. If in that time it is determined that Silva has no intention of defending his title they can make the call of vacating, stripping or creating an interm champion. Again, I just feel that you're not doing the new champ any favors if we wins it after stripping Anderson. That's the worst case scenario.
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Anderson's situation is worse than Overeem's SF title in my eyes. Overeem actually competed in the year he was gone while Anderson will be sitting on his ass like the King of Brazil.

The correlation of each situation would be poor management.

The only thing that will work against Anderson is damaging the legacy he cares so much about. Take away the belt if he wants to be latent for a year.



I agree with what was said earlier in this thread. Anderson is posturing when making this statement just as GSP postures when he says he doesn't want the fight. The more they act like they are not interested in this financial windfall, the more money that will shower them in the end.
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I agree with what was said earlier in this thread. Anderson is posturing when making this statement just as GSP postures when he says he doesn't want the fight. The more they act like they are not interested in this financial windfall, the more money that will shower them in the end.
Bullshit. GSP has been honest and has taken the same stance for the past 2 years. Anderson has contradicted himself on a week to week basis. Don't drag GSP down to this little cowards level.
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I doubt this turns out to be a reality. I feel like they'll say anything to stir up dust. I can't take anything seriously until it actually happens.
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What else do you do with a champion who wont defend his belt? I think it would add a ton of credit to the ufc, by showing that it doesnt matter who you are, a champion defends their title. Do we want another SF HW champion situation?
It won't happen. they want standing champions to hype a superfight...it wouldn't have the same percieved value otherwise.

Assuming Georges does indeed fight next week, if he doesn't defend at WW again before the end of April of 2013, that would be exactly one title defense in 2 years. Granted, it would be as a result of an injury layoff, but it would still be unacceptable in my perception. Anderson would have till the end of August for the same concern to take effect.



Think about that for a minute: one defense in two years for the biggest org in the business, with both rosters deeper and more viable than they've ever been.




While I'm 80% sure this is just Anderson playing the diva card--make no mistake, I think he's a diva, but he's not that much of a diva; though he certainly is that much full of shit--if it's true, and if Georges agrees to sit out a year while he gains weight they should BOTH be stripped.

Not having either belt defended more than once in a two-year span is simply pathetic, and no amount of ppv sales can really justify it, in my mind.

I don't think it's true, but if it is, I don't think zuffa is going to do anything. I hope this is just posturing and posing nonsense, because if it isn't, it's just sad.

It's already difficult for me to take zuffa seriously with the Jones/sonnen debacle, this would push them too far beyond redemption for me to give a fuck about.

I guess it comes down to role modeling...if dana is so casual about his utter lack of integrity, I can't imagine his employees to do any better.

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I still think we're being played. If not for financial gain by Anderson than for his own amusement.

My attitude regarding championships is as follows: A championship is only as credible as the champion that is holding it. The perception of the fighter claiming the belt following Anderson being stripped will be that of a joke. I know I would be laughing if they attempted to announce the new champ as anything but disputed. Unfortunately, in my eyes Anderson holds the cards.

In the all mighty words of Ric Flair, "To be the man, you gotta beat the man! WOOO!"
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