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[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

The only GSP fight I've ever regarded as remotely boring was the Shields fight, which can be wholly attributed to GSP fighting with only one eye.

[lwbrewer]

My thoughts Condit made GSP be more agressive since he was from the bottom. I respect GSP's ability to transform between moves so fast and fluidly, but don't like how he use's it as a safety valve. He has the ability IMO to finish most of his past opponetts and chose to keep chaging positions to avoid a stand up. In the end it will keep winning him fights by dec, but he could have many 1-3 round finishes if he chose to go for them.

[v3xi]

People are saying they will never read my posts again and we got someone saying Condit beat GSP. Well done mmanews forums!

[Goremire]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

Does anyone else feel like Condit really "won" that fight? Outside of the first round, it seemed like Condit was getting the better of the ground striking off of his back, and of course GSP got rocked by that kick. I understand that the scoring system nowadays is 100% top control wins, but GSP really took a beating.

Anyways, it was a great fight and the first really good GSP fight I've seen in a while.

Man, I'm not gonna jump down your throat because I've been enjoying your posts for a long time and I like your work, but I have to fundamentally disagree with this. I've only watched the fight once but my take-home impressions were only of a dominant victory for GSP. Moral victory, PRIDE rules, Diaz rules, whatever, GSP took this fight.

I agree that GSP took some lumps (that head kick had me marking out like a 12 year old watching RAW) but Condit got the worse of the striking (ground and standing) in all rounds but the third in my opinion.

Can't wait to see Condit fight again, that guy is a badass. No quit in him whatsoever, he won GSP's AND the Montreal crowd's respect with that performance

[joeodd2]

I don't blame GSP for not finishing fights, I think he tries but he doesn't have the power either on his feet or the GNP to end fights against guys like Condit. He's facing really tough guys. He's still fun to watch and he's very beatable. Which make his fights more interesting.

[Adambomb]

Honestly, I find it funny how people actually think GSP changed anything about his style or general philosophy in this fight with Condit. Condit was better than Koscheck, Shields, or Hardy, so he was actually able to make the fight competitive.

However, GSP was still content to play it safe. Several times during the fight GSP landed combos which had Condit reeling back into the cage. Instead of continuing to throw strikes, GSP went for the takedown which he easily achieved. He continued his G&P assault even though it was clear that probably wasn't going to finish the fight, as Carlos had continually done a good job defending himself despite eating a lot of shots. Carlos couldn't stop GSP's takedowns but had good enough BJJ to make a submission very difficult, so Georges focused on G&P. GSP simply found Condit's biggest weakness and continued to exploit it.

That's the exact same thing GSP did in his previous fights. Hardy had horrendous grappling, so GSP went for submissions all day instead of mixing up striking or G&P. Koscheck couldn't stop the jab, so Georges just used that instead of throwing any combos or kicks in pursuit of the finish.

GSP always takes the safest route to victory. It's a credit to his skillset that he's versatile enough to exploit even the tiniest weakness in an opponent's game, but let's not pretend he's actually changed. If GSP wanted to stop Condit he probably could have by continually throwing combos once he had Carlos backing up. But that would've come with the risk of getting Ko'd, so he again chose not to.

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by Adambomb

Honestly, I find it funny how people actually think GSP changed anything about his style or general philosophy in this fight with Condit. Condit was better than Koscheck, Shields, or Hardy, so he was actually able to make the fight competitive.

Exactly. It was the same GSP. Condit is just an amazing fighter who is massively underrated.

[Luc1an]

Originally Posted by Adambomb

Honestly, I find it funny how people actually think GSP changed anything about his style or general philosophy in this fight with Condit. Condit was better than Koscheck, Shields, or Hardy, so he was actually able to make the fight competitive.

However, GSP was still content to play it safe. Several times during the fight GSP landed combos which had Condit reeling back into the cage. Instead of continuing to throw strikes, GSP went for the takedown which he easily achieved. He continued his G&P assault even though it was clear that probably wasn't going to finish the fight, as Carlos had continually done a good job defending himself despite eating a lot of shots. Carlos couldn't stop GSP's takedowns but had good enough BJJ to make a submission very difficult, so Georges focused on G&P. GSP simply found Condit's biggest weakness and continued to exploit it.

That's the exact same thing GSP did in his previous fights. Hardy had horrendous grappling, so GSP went for submissions all day instead of mixing up striking or G&P. Koscheck couldn't stop the jab, so Georges just used that instead of throwing any combos or kicks in pursuit of the finish.

GSP always takes the safest route to victory. It's a credit to his skillset that he's versatile enough to exploit even the tiniest weakness in an opponent's game, but let's not pretend he's actually changed. If GSP wanted to stop Condit he probably could have by continually throwing combos once he had Carlos backing up. But that would've come with the risk of getting Ko'd, so he again chose not to.

This^^^

As much as i like GSP and as much as i enjoyed the fight, it was the same ol BS. At the 2:00 min mark of every round, regardless of whether he was winning the stand up or not, GSP took Condit down. To "secure" the round. Meh. The funny thing is that he was actually winning alot of the exchanges on the feet. Oh well.

[K1NG P3NN]

Condit is a warrior, went out on his shield. Hope he climbs back up and gets a chance at him again. War NBK.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by Goremire

Man, I'm not gonna jump down your throat because I've been enjoying your posts for a long time and I like your work, but I have to fundamentally disagree with this. I've only watched the fight once but my take-home impressions were only of a dominant victory for GSP. Moral victory, PRIDE rules, Diaz rules, whatever, GSP took this fight.

I agree that GSP took some lumps (that head kick had me marking out like a 12 year old watching RAW) but Condit got the worse of the striking (ground and standing) in all rounds but the third in my opinion.

Can't wait to see Condit fight again, that guy is a badass. No quit in him whatsoever, he won GSP's AND the Montreal crowd's respect with that performance

I'm just saying GSP took a pretty bad beating in terms of damage, and mostly won on ground control. It was a grueling fight, I just think at the end of the night GSP was probably hurting more. Of course GSP won on points, Condit had 1 round tops, but GSP's face didn't become a bruised and bloody mess from that 1 kick.