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[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Looks like Silva will be fighting Luke Rockhold if GSP taps out

I hope so. I really wish to see that fight

[AnchorPunch]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

I always hoped they would turn it into a feeder company, it wouldve essentially been like what the NCAA is to the NFL. The amateurs that are around could go there, and if they did well enough, they could get "drafted" to the UFC. Since their focus would be amateurs, then they could really improve their scouting agencies to find amateurs from all the gyms in this country and gain interest.

This would've really helped improve the bottom line of MMA fighters in the UFC.

Couldn't agree more, man! I really hoped SF would be where amateur talent first develops and where UFC guys who get bumped go to regroup.

Though, honestly, no idea what that means from a biz standpoint versus just more fighters and more cards in the UFC.

[rivethead]

Please, this is bullshit from dana. SF was doing fine as a business, zuffa bought it, raped the roster and underpromoted it.

People hating on Pashak's English-as-a-second-language posts fail to realize how badly zuffa mismanaged the org. It could have been successful, they failed to make it successful. They put more effort into that utter failure of a reality show than they did an org that could have established the very concept of a feeder org.

SF had incredible moments, but none of them happened under zuffa. It sucks that another great org--this one with a storied combat sports history nearly a decade longer than the UFC's--is going under due to more mismanagement.

Fuck coker for fucking this up, but fuck dana for fucking with the roster and then pretending that he had nothing to do with the failure. And fuck Lorenzo for continuing to allow this bullshit to happen.

rh

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by rivethead

Please, this is bullshit from dana. SF was doing fine as a business, zuffa bought it, raped the roster and underpromoted it.

People hating on Pashak's English-as-a-second-language posts fail to realize how badly zuffa mismanaged the org. It could have been successful, they failed to make it successful. They put more effort into that utter failure of a reality show than they did an org that could have established the very concept of a feeder org.

SF had incredible moments, but none of them happened under zuffa. It sucks that another great org--this one with a storied combat sports history nearly a decade longer than the UFC's--is going under due to more mismanagement.

Fuck coker for fucking this up, but fuck dana for fucking with the roster and then pretending that he had nothing to do with the failure. And fuck Lorenzo for continuing to allow this bullshit to happen.

rh

Zuffa mismanaged it on purpose so the Showtime deal would collapse in a manner than would not make them look like a monopoly.

[noahm]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

Pasha, your argument doesn't make any sense. Zuffa bought the company, not only to kill competition, but to also profit from the company as much as possible. If a branch of your business fails, even if you initially bought it to discourage competition, its still a major disappointment that you couldn't turn it around.

Not picking on you, just clearing things up. Zuffa never wanted SF to succeed or make money. They just wanted to crush SF until the FTC started investigating their business tactics. Then they suddenly wanted to 'let SF be its own thing' with their 'support'.

If anyone thinks the gross mismanagement was anything but intentional, they should look into the background a bit more. If they had bought it and dismantled it right away, the FTC would have never closed their investigation. If it fails 'all by itself (lol)', who can be blamed for it closing its doors.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by noahm

Not picking on you, just clearing things up. Zuffa never wanted SF to succeed or make money. They just wanted to crush SF until the FTC started investigating their business tactics. Then they suddenly wanted to 'let SF be its own thing' with their 'support'.

If anyone thinks the gross mismanagement was anything but intentional, they should look into the background a bit more. If they had bought it and dismantled it right away, the FTC would have never closed that investigation. If it fails 'all by itself (lol)', who can be blamed for it closing its doors.

That's why Zuffa mismanaged Strikeforce on purpose.

[Adambomb]

Business as usual.

[dmc_tim]

What i dont understand is why they kept strikeforce around instead of keeping pride alive and restructuring it.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by dmc_tim

What i dont understand is why they kept strikeforce around instead of keeping pride alive and restructuring it.

FTC closes monopoly investigation of UFC - Mixed Martial Arts News

FTC closes monopoly investigation of UFC

For many months there has been an ongoing, not-completely-secret investigation of UFC and Strikeforce parent company ZUFFA by the Federal Trade Commission to determine whether ZUFFA holds a monopoly position in the space. If a monopoly were held to exist, a break up of the company would be a likely consequence.

For months company owners Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White described the idea as ridicullous. Never the less, the idea circulated widely, perhaps most notably in content generated by The Culinary Workers Union Local 226, which has for years failed in its attempts to unionize the Station group of hotel-casinos in Las Vegas. Station Casinos is owned by Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, who are also majority owners of the UFC, and thus the UFC became an exceedinlgy unlikely target for a union action.

The FTC investigation was also mentioned in a recent ESPN Outside the Lines company profile that widely criticised.

Now the FTC has announced that the investigation is closed, as detailed in a letter to the New York City-based law firm Axinn-Veltrop-Harkrider, LLP, which had been retained by Zuffa as its representation before the FTC.

January 25, 2012
Office of the Secretary
Stephen Axinn, Esq.
Axinn Veltrop, and Harkrider LLP
1330 Connecticut Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20036

Re: Acquisition of Explosion Entertainment, LLC (Strikeforce) by Zuffa, LLC (UFC) FTC File No. 111 0136

Dear Mr. Axinn:

The Federal Trade Commission’s Bureau of Competition has been conducting a nonpublic investigation to determine whether Zuffa, LLC’s acquisition of Explosion Entertainment, LLC may violate Section 7 of the Clayton Act or Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act.
Upon further review of this matter, it now appears that no further action is warranted by the Commission at this time. Accordingly, the investigation has been closed. This action is not to be construed as a determination that a violation may not have occurred, just as the pendency of an investigation should not be construed as a determination that a violation has occurred. The Commission reserves the right to take such further action as the public interest may require.

By direction of the Commission.

Donald S. Clark Secretary

You see, if Zuffa immediately absorbed the Strikeforce fighters as they intended on impulse, they would have been legally liable.

Beat the competition by buying them. You think that is absurd? It is done in all varieties of business. Zuffa just got caught. It is only a question of how much market share Bellator has compared between the trifecta of televised North American MMA. The UFC would have gained too much market share if Zuffa absorbed Strikeforce immediately. They played it along as long as they could with Showtime.

Do the two cancelled shows in the past months give any indication how much Zuffa is trying to hold Strikeforce together?

[W.Silva>C.Norris]

Why am I not suprised that pashak has hatred to spew in a thread about dana white? Oh, right, because its the same thing out of him every time. Kind of like roaddawg defending anything a black fighter does, no matter what.