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I risk my long term health going to work every day should I get 100k? How about anyone out there doing a blue collar job should they get 100k ? If you want these guys to be paid based upon risk I certainly hope you want everyone else that has some danger in their job to get at least 100k.

This is a competitive sport that provides entertainment to people. That's what the pay scale should be based on.
Its complete BS to compare firefighters, teachers etc to UFC fighters or other athletes. It is quite obvious that noble professions in life should get paid way more but it is not a fair comparison and I am not even going to bother debating that.

You are actually comparing your job to someone that gets punched and kicked in the face on a daily basis and saying you take as much danger risk? I work in construction so I am the type of people you are talking about btw and its just not a fair argument. No one is filling up stadiums to watch me tile a fucking floor.

The UFC generates huge income, the bottom guys are getting screwed in the UFC more than any other pro sport. The only thing I can think of that is close in comparison is the X games athletes but that is an amateur sport at best and a lot of the viewers and athletes are anti corporation/anti mainstream.
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I am more concerned about the dude on the undercard getting his body crushed for $5000 a fight when that barely covers his training camp.
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I go to the bar 2-5 times a year to watch UFC's.
So concerned you only watch 2 to 5 events....at a bar?

Real concerned you are.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So concerned you only watch 2 to 5 events....at a bar?

Real concerned you are.
Your turning into a pretty big illogical Dbag bro. What relevance does it have on the lowest paid fighters if I order a PPV or watch it in a bar? If PPV's next year tripled you think that anyone other than Dana and co and the very top fighters would see any of that money?
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Your turning into a pretty big illogical Dbag bro. What relevance does it have on the lowest paid fighters if I order a PPV or watch it in a bar? If PPV's next year tripled you think that anyone other than Dana and co and the very top fighters would see any of that money?
Don't call me bro, bro.

And if you don't know the relation to revenue and fighter pay, I don't know what to tell ya.

But I see keeping it classy isn't easy for you to do.
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But I see keeping it classy isn't easy for you to do.
I am not going to say I am the king of class or logical debate but I am here defending the lowest dudes on the totem poll. I think if I was saying Dana and his business pals deserved more money you could question my class. Why am I in the minority when I say UFC fighters should be getting minimum 100k a year or 25k a fight? The UFC roster isn't even that big.
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Am I really the only one that noticed this dude say unpossible? That's not even a word!
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Its complete BS to compare firefighters, teachers etc to UFC fighters or other athletes. It is quite obvious that noble professions in life should get paid way more but it is not a fair comparison and I am not even going to bother debating that.
Feel free to ignore the point but the point is valid in the context of you saying risk should be the determining factor in someone's pay cheque.

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You are actually comparing your job to someone that gets punched and kicked in the face on a daily basis and saying you take as much danger risk? I work in construction so I am the type of people you are talking about btw and its just not a fair argument. No one is filling up stadiums to watch me tile a fucking floor.
First off these guys don't get punched and kicked in the face full force every day no pro athlete trains at full contact every day that would be stupid. I'd rather step into a sparring ring on a daily basis then possibly fall off a roof, have a saw go through my hand, or get electrocuted wouldn't you?

Secondly you pretty much just agreed with the point I made in the other post. These guys are getting paid because people are willing to see them fight not because they might get hurt doing it. Hence when you are new and unknown you get paid less and have to earn your way up.

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The UFC generates huge income, the bottom guys are getting screwed in the UFC more than any other pro sport. The only thing I can think of that is close in comparison is the X games athletes but that is an amateur sport at best and a lot of the viewers and athletes are anti corporation/anti mainstream.
How are they getting screwed ? what entitles them to a higher pay cheque? Are these guys so popular that they are drawing the fans in ? How many paying customers are actually buying events to see the under card guys ? How many other fighters out there are more then willing to take their place at a chance to fight and move up in the ufc for the same pay? Would the arena and PPV sales suffer in the slightest by losing any undercard fights ?

If the risk/reward factors were so horrible for these guys why is there a line up of guys trying to get into the ufc ? why are the guys that were there before trying to get back in ? Why isn't there a long line up of ex fighters that never made it in the ufc complaining about low pay ?

The income an organization makes and pays out to it's employees should always be based on what that employee does for the company.
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Am I really the only one that noticed this dude say unpossible? That's not even a word!
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GSP won athelete of the year on Sportsnet's annual poll in an olympic year where Crosby won had the game winning goal and best start to a season in a long time. He is huge in canada. Not just in Canada, but the entire world, he is one of the most marketable atheletes in MMA. Him making $15 million shouldn't be a surprise.


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Sounds like the UFC should be sponsoring health insurance for their fighters...oh wait, they are. And those guys getting the lowest amounts for the undercard are the local guys who are getting their golden opportunity. Do you realize how little hockey players make before they get to the NHL? WHL players get billeted and stay with a random family while earning ~$400/month pocket cash.

Maybe some day we will actually get to see a UFC contract and then people can bitch about actual facts rather than the tiny snapshot of things we see.
They also get money that goes towards scholarships after the CHL. The CHL isn't a pro league. It's still Junior hockey.
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First off these guys don't get punched and kicked in the face full force every day no pro athlete trains at full contact every day that would be stupid. I'd rather step into a sparring ring on a daily basis then possibly fall off a roof, have a saw go through my hand, or get electrocuted wouldn't you?
90% of the people I met with missing fingers etc were almost guaranteed to be high or drunk at the time. It doesn't take much to start your own small business and not have to be on the roof or doing the dangerous part of the job. If you want to do grunt work you should at least be learning how to do every facet of the job, saving your money instead of getting drunk and stoned every day, making your own business and having grunts do your work for you while you sit at the office taking calls for the next jobs you will be booking. A lot of construction jobs get forms of hazard pay, just not the lower tier labourers that you find off Kijiji that never graduated high school.

Did you see the picture of the dude with the half torn apart big toe from sparring last week after getting it stuck between floor mats? Just because you're not taking full force punches and kicks every day doesn't mean you're not endangering your physical health every day. People practicing get hurt all the time. You really think that people in construction, on average, get hurt more then UFC fighters?
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