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12-07-2012, 01:47 PM
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#101 (permalink)
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I don't understand why some of you would lose respect for someone having a preference. I didn't read or hear him say Johny doesn't deserve the title shot or that he doesn't want to fight him. Georges doesn't like Nick at all and would find it easier to train and fight him.
Reporters take snipits of quotes without context so I can't understand how you lose respect so easily for someone who has worked for years to earn it. Basically I am saying you're a flake for it. Go hop on a band wagon
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12-07-2012, 01:56 PM
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#102 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by end it with a left I don't understand why some of you would lose respect for someone having a preference. I didn't read or hear him say Johny doesn't deserve the title shot or that he doesn't want to fight him. Georges doesn't like Nick at all and would find it easier to train and fight him.
Reporters take snipits of quotes without context so I can't understand how you lose respect so easily for someone who has worked for years to earn it. Basically I am saying you're a flake for it. Go hop on a band wagon | I think it's great that he has a preference. I think it's shit that he joined the new era of trying to choose his fights as champion.
The path to championship fights is supposed to be one rooted in meritocracy and it sucks that champions are trying to change that.
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12-07-2012, 02:04 PM
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I'd go so far as to point out that the very fact that Georges has worked so hard to get where he is makes it harder to swallow.
If Matt Hughes had chosen to fight Karo instead of Georges, he'd have been in the same situation Johny is in. It's easy for someone whose never been on the brink like that to laugh and say "well, Georges would have had to wait an extra 4 months before becoming champ" but it's much, much more than that.
He would have hated it if Hughes did the same thing he's doing to Hendricks.
And he should know better.
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12-07-2012, 02:47 PM
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#104 (permalink)
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Hendricks is more deserving of the title shot, Diaz is deserving of an ass kicking. I'm just happy the Anderson Silva vs GSP nonsense has stopped.
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12-07-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniggles This debate will never cease to exist nor does it ever cease to escalate. | On one side, there are people whose knowledge of marijuana extends only to viewing the propaganda film refer madness, yet they feel they know everything about it even having never tried it for themselves, and on the other side, there are some people who may or may not have tried it and choose to keep their heads out of their asses just as a good rule of thumb.
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12-07-2012, 03:12 PM
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Look, I've said it before when Chael got his title shot: the championship belts are just a promotional tool used to garner fan interest and make the promoters more money.
Even though I've tried to stop giving a shit about these things, it still kinda sucks to see someone as highly regarded as GSP take the easy road.
Oh well.
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12-07-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSalvatore Hendricks is more deserving of the title shot, Diaz is deserving of an ass kicking. I'm just happy the Anderson Silva vs GSP nonsense has stopped. | THIS right here. After reading this thread for a couple days Ive decided to throw my 2 cents in. Im not against this fight at all. Im glad the Anderson vs GSP train seems to be derailed for the time being. Hendricks is def more deserving, but with this situation, I much prefer the lesser of two evils and will take GSP vs Diaz over GSP vs Anderson any day.
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12-07-2012, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead
I believe the UFC as the most recognizable face of the industry holds tremendous sway over MMA's development. I do not see a model where they move away from integrity and closer to a WWE/Boxing model as progression. I see it as a loss of integrity and as a bad thing.
rh | They're already moving toward a boxing model with how they've been structuring their cards & adding weight classes.
The UFC won't have the same problems boxing does because they're the only game in town. They have all the best fighters and can more or less force them to fight each other when they see fit (at least if they're in the same division). Making the occasional title matchup based on personalities & entertaining styles isn't the worst thing in the world as long as the challengers are credible & #1 contenders receive title shots regularly. If you want to grow the sport you have to get new people to watch, and that's not easy to do when everyone is always respectful & fighting conservatively. If everyone was like Sonnen then it'd just be staged like WWE, but when guys have a natural conflict that shouldn't be shied away from.
I won't defend the personality of Nick Diaz (I think he has some serious issued) but I love his style & aggressiveness. He should be rewarded for constantly trying to finish fights instead of playing it safe like so many guys do.
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12-07-2012, 09:09 PM
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#109 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE On one side, there are people whose knowledge of marijuana extends only to viewing the propaganda film refer madness, yet they feel they know everything about it even having never tried it for themselves, and on the other side, there are some people who may or may not have tried it and choose to keep their heads out of their asses just as a good rule of thumb. | Those people are squares. |
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12-07-2012, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Adambomb I won't defend the personality of Nick Diaz (I think he has some serious issued) but I love his style & aggressiveness. He should be rewarded for constantly trying to finish fights instead of playing it safe like so many guys do. | I think if you look at the list of contenders and people close: Condit, Hendricks, Kampmann, Diaz, Ellenberger, there's no one who's "playing it safe"
In fact, I think the notion of fighters who play it safe is wildly overblown and just an excuse for people to bitch about fighters they don't like. Diaz, certainly, has earned nothing other than a regular fight and a chance to prove that he can perform his press duties and not get suspended.
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