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Old 12-06-2012, 07:00 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Anyone holding a UFC belt between the weights of 157 and 207 are turning into big(ger) dbags
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:03 PM   #62 (permalink)
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This is ridiculous. Hendricks is clearly the #1 contender and should get the title shot. Let's compare what Hendricks and Diaz have done over the past 12 months.

Hendricks:
- KOs Fitch in 12 seconds
- Defeats Koscheck
- KOs Kampmann in 46 seconds

Diaz:
- Loses to Condit
- Whines, moans, and announces retirement

The more deserving fighter seems pretty obvious to me.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #63 (permalink)
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First off, this entire thread is by & large a straw man argument. Dana never said Nick Diaz deserved a title shot more than Johnny Hendricks. GSP never stated he wouldn't fight Hendricks. All we know is that GSP requested to fight Diaz, & Dana appears to be granting that request.

Is it fair? No

Is it unprecedented? No

Does it undermine the credibility of the sport? No. As long as champions are fighting the consensus #1 contenders on a regular basis the sport is fine.

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Anyone holding a UFC belt between the weights of 157 and 207 are turning into big(ger) dbags
Why? Because they're dominant champions that get bored with the ho-hum title defenses that've made up their reigns so far?

Condit was the first fighter to actually threaten GSP other than the Serra fluke. If Diaz (a legit top 10 contender) gets him motivated, then let him fight Diaz.

Bones has lost 1 round during his entire reign, and there is no clear #1 contender at 205. If Sonnen gets him motivated and creates the biggest fight possible then so be it. It's not like Bones won't fight Machida eventually if Lyoto continues to win.

Silva's a little different because his intentions for avoiding Weidman are unclear, but if Weidman continues to distinguish himself that fight will happen eventually. Why? Because the more momentum Weidman gains the more money a showdown with Silva will draw.

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The terms are linked too often. Ducking doesn't automatically equate to scared.

But when a champion doesn't fight the #1 contender and asks for someone else, he's ducking the #1 contender.

Georges is absolutely ducking Hendricks.


Please. Don't get all Bill Clinton and start debating bullshit semantics.

Georges is champion. Hendricks is #1 contender. Diaz is coming off a suspension and a loss. Georges is asking for Diaz. That's ducking, and it's bullshit.

You can try to justify it by saying he's still angry because Diaz talked shit. You can throw money into the equation, though I'm still not convinced Diaz is a huge draw.

But when it all washes out, ducking is ducking. This is every bit as bad as Anderson stating he has no intention of fighting Weidman. It doesn't mean anyone is scared.

It does mean they're not living up to the fundamental obligations champions assume when they strap on the belt.

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rivethead, there's a big difference between "ducking" the #1 contender & simply wanting another fight first. Ever heard of a tune-up? Maybe GSP think sso little of Nick he's just using him to get ready for Hendricks. I don't actually believe that for a second, but then again, you don't actually believe GSP is "ducking" Hendricks either do you? GSP will fight Hendricks eventually. He just wants Diaz first.
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This is ridiculous. Hendricks is clearly the #1 contender and should get the title shot. Let's compare what Hendricks and Diaz have done over the past 12 months.

Hendricks:
- KOs Fitch in 12 seconds
- Defeats Koscheck
- KOs Kampmann in 46 seconds

Diaz:
- Loses to Condit
- Whines, moans, and announces retirement

The more deserving fighter seems pretty obvious to me.
Why you do not mention Nick's destruction over Bj penn?
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Well I both hate this and love it at the same time. I'd love to watch Diaz and GSP go at it, but obviously Johny is the most worthy contender. Anyone that thinks Diaz deserves a title shot over Hendricks is just as high as Diaz. On top of that, if you think Johny stand no chance at all then you've gotta be fucking kiddin me. One shot can change the whole outlook on the WW division.

On a side note, shut the fuck up Jake Shields. You are irrelevant, go learn some stand up.
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LOL the #1 contender concept in the UFC is kinda like the concept of time in Doctor Who.....

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Dana White tells Johny Hendricks that he deserves and will get his title shot - Bloody Elbow

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Shortly after Thursday's UFC On Fox 5 press conference, Ariel Helwani got word from Dana White that they want to book Nick Diaz as Georges St. Pierre's next contender to the Welterweight throne. White claims that St. Pierre specifically requested the fight. The news was met with a mix of criticism and excitement from fans and fighters alike.

Johny Hendricks was particularly upset with the announcement. Hendricks is on a 5 fight win streak including 3 consecutive victories over top 10 opponents in the last 11 months. He capped off that streak by knocking out Martin Kampmann in under a minute at UFC 154. Since then he's been campaigning for his own shot at the 170 lb. title saying he'd rather sit out than fight in anything but a championship bout.

He immediately took to Twitter after hearing that Diaz had somehow jumped to the front of the line:

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Easy solution to all this 3 way Ménage à trois WW match??

Book Hendricks as Diaz's first match back from suspension. Hendricks took absolutely no damage in his last match. Dolce already has stated he is back in gym training. JH can go at any time. Diaz is said to be always training as well. They can book this match at UFC 157 Feb. 23, in addition to the Rousey/Carmouche, Machida/Hendo bouts.

GSP needs time tor recover from his last matchup anyways. Not like he would be fighting again until at the very earliest April.
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Dana White tells Johny Hendricks that he deserves and will get his title shot - Bloody Elbow

So, if Dana knows Hendricks has earned his shot, why give the shot to Diaz?
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I guess Shields wants another Dan Henderson like bomb to his face by Hendricks.
can you remind me how that dan henderson fight ended....
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