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12-09-2012, 04:29 PM
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Should they fight, will GSP probably soul rape him? Yes for sure. But you can not, I repeat CAN NOT train for Johnny's power. You just can't. And that was a short shot he landed on Martin and KO'd a guy who has NEVER been KO'd.
So unless GSP keeps Johnny on his back for 25 full minutes, he has a massive chance.
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12-09-2012, 04:39 PM
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GSP got caught by Matt early in his career and never recovered, but you cant say he didnt recover well from that kick against Carlos. He showed a lot of poise there that really impressed me. Poor Johnny would wind up on his back like the rest of GSP's opponents, at least if Diaz was lying there on his back he'll be flipping off everyone while getting his ass kicked like his brother!
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12-09-2012, 04:45 PM
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regardless of how his skills may match up with GSP's, Hendricks has earned his shot and to give the fight to anyone else is a slap in the face. I completely agree that hendricks should be pissed about GSP calling for a lesser fighter.
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I agree with Sak (everything but the soul raping, what it with you guys and your rape jokes). I think Johny has power. Add that with two d1 national championships and you got yourself a fight.
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12-09-2012, 05:01 PM
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It baffles the living shit out of me that on the same forum where people talk about Chris Weidman as if he's the middleweight messiah, as if he's head and shoulders above the rest of the MW contenders, guys are calling Hendricks a crybaby, etc. for feeling he deserves a WW title shot! Hendricks has done so much more in his respective division than Weidman! At least MW has other contenders who are actually WINNING FIGHTS! Bisping, Boetsch, and Belcher are coming off wins against formidable opponents, and Belfort was on a 3 fight winning streak before losing to the LHW champ (who he nearly subbed). Who else at WW has the momentum of Hendricks, besides the man GSP won't fight (Rory)? I'm a fan of Nick Diaz, but he lost his last fight AND got suspended for a year. If GSP isn't fighting Anderson Silva, Johny Hendricks should be the ONLY other option.
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12-09-2012, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MickeyKnox I'm not saying he's a better fighter than GSP. He's certainly not. That doesn't mean the guy couldn't beat him. He's actually earned his shot, too. Everyone has bad fights. I'm surprised you feel this way about him Fedorlei. If GSP picks him apart, like i'd expect him to, at least Hendricks did more than what others do to earn that ass kicking. But if he landed that punch on GSP, it's over. Just because Kos had a similar style doesn't mean Hendricks can't find a better way to use it or find success. Anything could happen but the bottom line is that Hendricks is not wrong for being upset.
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Originally Posted by H0SS Dude, when I first started reading your post, I was shocked that you would say something so ignorant, lol. It wasn't until the last few lines that I picked up on the sarcasm
Hmm, I think this is the first time I've noticed you showing real disdain for a fighter. I don't understand. Who do you think deserves the next title shot? | For the record, I agree that Hendricks deserves the title shot, I believe he's earned the title shot with some impressive victories and has done more than his contemporaries.....however, I just don't think he can be too upset here, as IMO he is an extremely unconvincing challenger to meet GSP.
I feel as though people are hopping onto the Hendricks bandwagon on account of the Fitch and Kampmann KTFOs and are blatantly ignoring when Hendricks looked painfully normal and less than contender ready in his subpar performances against Kos, Pierce and in his loss to Story. Johny's record says five straight, however he could've very easily dropped either or both of those SD wins and it feels as though he and alot of others have amnesia regarding them.
I don't have a problem with Hendricks himself so much, but I hear all the time about his power and how he's "a wrestler that can knock people out" and I think it is given too much credence. When you take a closer look at his record, he hasn't gone up against a great striker(I suppose you could argue Kampmann) and for me, has so many glaring holes in his overall game that I don't consider a former SF WW champion in Diaz to be such a glaring slight. I believe Hendricks has more than just a puncher's chance, but I think that GSP is far too superior in far too many aspects of MMA to make it a serious contest.
I suppose I'm disregarding Hendricks here, however I don't think GSP/Hendricks is a competative bout in comparison to Diaz/GSP. While Hendricks' covers alot of the distance to compensate for the reach he gives up, GSP's boxing and leg kicks are something I don't believe he'll even remotely have an answer to. Likewise, while Hendricks is a helluva wrestler, I don't know if he can stop the awesome GSP grappling attack and from there, have legitimate questions concerning his ability to defend against the GNP and submissions. Johny's got some crazy KO's on his record, but looking at his overall body of work, I'm simply disinterested in him going up against Georges.
I wish everyone would put a little more analysis into the Pierce and Kos fights before decrying this miscarriage of justice. I hear these comparisons to Anderson/Weidman, however would argue that GSP has beaten a more credible number of top tier WW contenders than Anderson has(several lower level challengers in Lutter, Leites, Cote etc) although FTR, I don't really have much issue with the Anderson/Weidman situation, as again, I believe that Weidman will eventually get his shot.
As I've said before, I see Diaz to GSP as what Sonnen 1 was to Anderson. Hendricks is the contender, but GSP's got issues with Diaz and wants to fight him and I think for all of his dominance, has a right to ask for that fight. I don't believe for a second(and think it would be foolhardy too) that GSP is ducking Johny and think to appease him, Hendricks should be given either the time off to wait for GSP to finish up with Diaz or fight Nate Marquardt for the SFWW title and then get the big money unification bout with GSP, where his credibility will be more established.
I'll get heat for this, but that's my stance.
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12-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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As I've said before, I see Diaz to GSP as what Sonnen 1 was to Anderson. Hendricks is the contender, but GSP's got issues with Diaz and wants to fight him and I think for all of his dominance, has a right to ask for that fight. I don't believe for a second(and think it would be foolhardy too) that GSP is ducking Johny and think to appease him, Hendricks should be given either the time off to wait for GSP to finish up with Diaz or fight Nate Marquardt for the SFWW title and then get the big money unification bout with GSP, where his credibility will be more established.
| You are in the minority that doesn't think that GSP is looking for the much easier fight in Nick Diaz.
GSP would do to Nick what Rory Mac did to Nate in RD3.
I think it is a smart business for GSP to go for Nick Diaz, but I still think it is ducking the more difficult challenges of Hendricks, the rightfully #1 contender, and Anderson Silva, the vanity fight.
I would rather see Rory MacDonald fight Nick Diaz.
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12-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre For the record, I agree that Hendricks deserves the title shot, I believe he's earned the title shot with some impressive victories and has done more than his contemporaries.....however, I just don't think he can be too upset here, as IMO he is an extremely unconvincing challenger to meet GSP.
I feel as though people are hopping onto the Hendricks bandwagon on account of the Fitch and Kampmann KTFOs and are blatantly ignoring when Hendricks looked painfully normal and less than contender ready in his subpar performances against Kos, Pierce and in his loss to Story. Johny's record says five straight, however he could've very easily dropped either or both of those SD wins and it feels as though he and alot of others have amnesia regarding them.
I don't have a problem with Hendricks himself so much, but I hear all the time about his power and how he's "a wrestler that can knock people out" and I think it is given too much credence. When you take a closer look at his record, he hasn't gone up against a great striker(I suppose you could argue Kampmann) and for me, has so many glaring holes in his overall game that I don't consider a former SF WW champion in Diaz to be such a glaring slight. I believe Hendricks has more than just a puncher's chance, but I think that GSP is far too superior in far too many aspects of MMA to make it a serious contest.
I suppose I'm disregarding Hendricks here, however I don't think GSP/Hendricks is a competative bout in comparison to Diaz/GSP. While Hendricks' covers alot of the distance to compensate for the reach he gives up, GSP's boxing and leg kicks are something I don't believe he'll even remotely have an answer to. Likewise, while Hendricks is a helluva wrestler, I don't know if he can stop the awesome GSP grappling attack and from there, have legitimate questions concerning his ability to defend against the GNP and submissions. Johny's got some crazy KO's on his record, but looking at his overall body of work, I'm simply disinterested in him going up against Georges.
I wish everyone would put a little more analysis into the Pierce and Kos fights before decrying this miscarriage of justice. I hear these comparisons to Anderson/Weidman, however would argue that GSP has beaten a more credible number of top tier WW contenders than Anderson has(several lower level challengers in Lutter, Leites, Cote etc) although FTR, I don't really have much issue with the Anderson/Weidman situation, as again, I believe that Weidman will eventually get his shot.
As I've said before, I see Diaz to GSP as what Sonnen 1 was to Anderson. Hendricks is the contender, but GSP's got issues with Diaz and wants to fight him and I think for all of his dominance, has a right to ask for that fight. I don't believe for a second(and think it would be foolhardy too) that GSP is ducking Johny and think to appease him, Hendricks should be given either the time off to wait for GSP to finish up with Diaz or fight Nate Marquardt for the SFWW title and then get the big money unification bout with GSP, where his credibility will be more established.
I'll get heat for this, but that's my stance. | So you agree that Hendricks is the #1 contender and deserves his titleshot. But I don't agree with "GSP's got issues with Diaz and wants to fight him and I think for all of his dominance, has a right to ask for that fight." I don't think Champions should be able to defend their titles against lesser competition when there is an actual #1 contender available.
If GSP wants to fight guys in his division who haven't earned their shot, then he should give up the title.
Also, Nick struggles with wrestlers, and has avoided facing them for 6 years since.
Then there is that secret pact that he and his brother made to avoid checking leg kicks.
GSP/Diaz would look a lot like Bendo/Nate Diaz did. A complete mismatch.
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Originally Posted by CapCee It baffles the living shit out of me that on the same forum where people talk about Chris Weidman as if he's the middleweight messiah, as if he's head and shoulders above the rest of the MW contenders, guys are calling Hendricks a crybaby, etc. for feeling he deserves a WW title shot! Hendricks has done so much more in his respective division than Weidman! At least MW has other contenders who are actually WINNING FIGHTS! Bisping, Boetsch, and Belcher are coming off wins against formidable opponents, and Belfort was on a 3 fight winning streak before losing to the LHW champ (who he nearly subbed). Who else at WW has the momentum of Hendricks, besides the man GSP won't fight (Rory)? I'm a fan of Nick Diaz, but he lost his last fight AND got suspended for a year. If GSP isn't fighting Anderson Silva, Johny Hendricks should be the ONLY other option. | It baffles the shit out of me how people tend to group people together rather than look at the individuals that are actually saying something controversial or stupid.
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12-09-2012, 08:37 PM
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GSP v Diaz wont be even slightly competitive....or entertaining. Condit showed the world that if you dont stand like your feet are cemented in the ground, Diaz's flurry combos are fuckin worthless. Every fighter with a high school wrestling pedigree has shown how easy it is to control a Diaz fight. GSP will shoot and plant Diaz at will while we all wish that Hendricks and his James Hardenesque beard were in the ring stuffing the occasional TD and at least threatening a KO with his caveman power. I already wasted 25 minutes watching one Rhodes scholar from Stockton landing more middle fingers than any sort of effective offense in a UFC title, I'll pass on gettin all hyped to watch his older brother REALLY use sign language to tell someone fuck you.
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