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12-10-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi Rather be a hater then a nut hugger. Anderson is a great fighter, hes just not p4p best and his division has been a joke for years which over inflates how amazing people think he is. | By calling his division a joke and him not the p4p best just destroys any credibility you have on the issue. If his division is such a joke, then why is the 2nd best LHW in the world a guy that Anderson stopped in the 2nd round?
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12-10-2012, 09:40 AM
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GSP has faced way tougher opponents and dominates them round after round.
Jones has beat 4 past champions in 1 year in the #1/#2 most talented division and Anderson is scared shitless of him
aaaand by definition of pound for pound I would put Edgar ahead of Anderson too
Out of these 4 mentioned only 1 of them hand picks opponents, calls out cans, avoids legit competition and practices dance moves on PPVs.
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12-10-2012, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi GSP has faced way tougher opponents and dominates them round after round.
Jones has beat 4 past champions in 1 year in the #1/#2 most talented division and Anderson is scared shitless of him
aaaand by definition of pound for pound I would put Edgar ahead of Anderson too
Out of these 4 mentioned only 1 of them hand picks opponents, calls out cans, avoids legit competition and practices dance moves on PPVs. | Bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Hendo, Maia, Marquardt, Sonnen, Franklin, Griffin, and Belfort are much more accomplished fighters then Kos, Condit, Alves, Fitch, and Hughes. Where as GSP wins on points, Silva stops his opponents definitively. No other champ is as prolific of a finisher as Silva.
Jones beat a bunch of past champions, but so did Silva. Hendo also beat a bunch of past champs at a weight class above Silva.
As for all the political bullshit, it's just gossip. If Silva is hand picking opponents, then why is he fighting all of the top MW's? Saying Silva is "scared" is bullshit. GSP doesn't want to fight Silva either, are you saying he's "scared"?
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12-10-2012, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi Which is why he is scared of Jones and constantly harasses a smaller fighter to get in the ring with him? | So you dont want GSP to fight Anderson, but want Anderson to fight Jones... The much bigger fighter? you do realize Jones is a lot bigger than Anderson right?
Why make GSP fight Anderson... Give Bendo some time to go on a nice run, and im sure GSP will warm up to another super-fight against the LW champ. Quote:
Originally Posted by v3xi aaaand by definition of pound for pound I would put Edgar ahead of Anderson too | Why is that? Bendo and Maynard are clearly bigger than him, buts its not like dominated any of those fights... they were all close until the end... His first fight with Penn was a BS decison, another close fight.... the only time he really dominated was in the 2nd BJ fight, who actually isnt much bigger than Frankie, if at all.
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12-10-2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi GSP has faced way tougher opponents and dominates them round after round.
Jones has beat 4 past champions in 1 year in the #1/#2 most talented division and Anderson is scared shitless of him
aaaand by definition of pound for pound I would put Edgar ahead of Anderson too
Out of these 4 mentioned only 1 of them hand picks opponents, calls out cans, avoids legit competition and practices dance moves on PPVs. | Who would these "tougher than Anderson's opponents" be? Condit, Fitch and who? I'd put Belfort and Hendo above those 2 who I consider his toughest challenges.
And just because a fighter gave GSP a challenge, doesn't mean they would give Anderson one. Maia and Marquardt are destroying in the WW division, yet Anderson beat them both rather easily. Hell, he beat Maia without trying at all?
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12-10-2012, 11:41 AM
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Jones is closer to Anderson's weight than Anderson is to GSP's weight.
Belfort and Hendo are nowhere near in their prime. Its actually funny because Dan is better now then he was a few years ago. Quote: |
Maia and Marquardt are destroying in the WW division, yet Anderson beat them both rather easily.
| Check up destroying in a dictionary. Nate gave Anderson some trouble, as did Hendo, and Anderson ducked them both in rematches.
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12-10-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by v3xi Jones is closer to Anderson's weight than Anderson is to GSP's weight.
Belfort and Hendo are nowhere near in their prime. Its actually funny because Dan is better now then he was a few years ago.
Check up destroying in a dictionary. Nate gave Anderson some trouble, as did Hendo, and Anderson ducked them both in rematches. | The size difference between Jones and Silva is much larger then that of GSP and Silva, just look at their heights and reaches. Judging the "size" of the 3 guys based on their habits between fight camps is bullshit. When Silva was Jones' age, he was a WW.
Hendo is the best he ever was, yet is no where near his prime... Really? The guy is on a tear through the division you proclaim to be the deepest in the sport, yet he was over the hill when he fought Silva years earlier.
Belfort almost beat Jones. If the arm bar was a little cleaner, he would have snapped his arm. Condit almost stopped GSP. If he landed one of those follow up elbows on the chin, fight over. Those are 2 guys that, while dominant, they need to be imposing their will to win. Silva is a guy who can pull out a win at any time.
And Hendo and Marquardt gave Silva trouble, how do you figure? Hendo had a little bit of ground control in the first and got starched in the second. Marquardt tried to wrestle with Silva, Silva hit a switch and put his lights out with GnP in a couple minutes. No one has ever beaten either of those guys as easily as Silva has.
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12-10-2012, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by v3xi Jones is closer to Anderson's weight than Anderson is to GSP's weight.
Belfort and Hendo are nowhere near in their prime. Its actually funny because Dan is better now then he was a few years ago.
Check up destroying in a dictionary. Nate gave Anderson some trouble, as did Hendo, and Anderson ducked them both in rematches. | you really are deluded, you can only beat the person in front of you, Anderson is P4P the best in the world
The only one close is Jon Jones, GSP is great but his fights are boring and he takes major damage, when was the last time Anderson looked beat up in a fight?
Jones at least has proved he can hang with the best and beat them as well and he may well become better than Anderson.
All you are doing here is trolling, has someone hacked your account?
It just seems strange that someone with 1000+ rep points will hate on a fighter for no reason.
Oh wait, let me guess, it's cause he ducked Weidman? And when he faces and beats him? Overrated fighter? MW division is shallow? Anderson is too big? He needs to fight Jones to prove himself? There really is nothing to gain from the Weidman fight for Anderson, 2 fights left, he will get a large PPV share and who really wants to see Anderson maul Weidman?
If he only has 2 fights left then why not go for the 2 superfights? GSP & Jones, if GSP doesn't want it then just say no, no shame in not taking a fight you are certain you will lose, then Anderson will end up fighting Jones, if he wins that fight we will hear Jones is overrated, he needs to triangle choke a grizzly bear underwater after being shot by the chinese mafia and eating a poisonous frog earlier in the same day.
It never ends, there is always another contender, Anderson is just the best, deal with it!
Rant over!!!
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12-10-2012, 12:47 PM
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There are a few mind boggling things that I get to read whenever there is a Anderson thread.
- Anything close to Silva is not one of the greatest that has ever been. The guys talent is impossible to ignore.
- Anderson does not duck or try to avoid tough matches. Whenever Silva says who he thinks is a worthy opponent and who isn't it is mind blowing. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean I assume he I intelligent enough to recognize who the most talented fighters around him are.
- the middle weight div has not been a weaker div in the UFC. Really????? Seriously?
I just laugh rather than argue because if you think any of these things then common sense isn't one of your strong suits.
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