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[IceCold48]

dank oo for givink me dey bloo-preent to beat nick diAz

[mmawolverine]

im gonna go out on a limb and say this fight when it happens will be nothing like the ben/nate scrap, i think ceasar will learn from the condit fight that nick really really needs to avoid being taken down for once, the bigger ego will lose the fight. will nick be too stubborn to fight a takedown and will gsp actually try to stand with a better boxer

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by mmawolverine

im gonna go out on a limb and say this fight when it happens will be nothing like the ben/nate scrap, i think ceasar will learn from the condit fight that nick really really needs to avoid being taken down for once, the bigger ego will lose the fight. will nick be too stubborn to fight a takedown and will gsp actually try to stand with a better boxer

Do you REALLY think that Nick can defend a takedown from GSP when Koscheck got taken down in the second fight whenever GSP wanted to? Nick and Nate are very similar, in the sense that they are weak for their weight class imo. GSP will throw him around like a rag doll.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

Do you REALLY think that Nick can defend a takedown from GSP when Koscheck got taken down in the second fight whenever GSP wanted to? Nick and Nate are very similar, in the sense that they are weak for their weight class imo. GSP will throw him around like a rag doll.

I hate to say this but I think this fight will look like Diaz Vs Sanchez

[Kimbo> Rampage]

Anybody who broke down the fight cited Leg kicks and takedowns as Bendo's keys to victory... that is exactly what happened... although He dominated a lot more than most people thought he would have...

GSP better not get too friendly with Bendo... Once Ben has a few more title defense and the superfight talks start heating up, im sure GSP will be much more open to that fight against the LW champ... again...

Originally Posted by mmawolverine

im gonna go out on a limb and say this fight when it happens will be nothing like the ben/nate scrap, i think ceasar will learn from the condit fight that nick really really needs to avoid being taken down for once, the bigger ego will lose the fight. will nick be too stubborn to fight a takedown and will gsp actually try to stand with a better boxer

Nick doesnt really have a choice... If he trained his TDD his entire camp, GSP still gets him down at will... Its always a good idea to tighten up your weaknesses, but everybody has a ceiling... guys like Diaz's or Condit will just never have elite level TDD, no matter how much they train it.

[Rise]

Originally Posted by mmawolverine

im gonna go out on a limb and say this fight when it happens will be nothing like the ben/nate scrap, i think ceasar will learn from the condit fight that nick really really needs to avoid being taken down for once, the bigger ego will lose the fight. will nick be too stubborn to fight a takedown and will gsp actually try to stand with a better boxer

I don't think Cesar will take away much from the Nate/Bendo fight and I doubt they will adapt their camp based on it. While the camp certainly has some talented fighters the play book on the Diaz brothers hasn't really changed in the last few years. Wrestling and leg kicks have always been a weakness of theirs.

[Adambomb]

Nick is a much better boxer than Nate and overall a much more talented fighter.

Condit is a skilled kickboxer & his legkicks were largely ineffective against Diaz. They didn't score nearly as much damage as Bendo or Cerrone did on Nate.

GSP will use a lot more wrestling than Bendo did. Takedown defense has always been Nick's biggest weakness. Hopefully he's trained in it to make this GSP fight competitive.

[CtGreat]

Originally Posted by Adambomb

Nick is a much better boxer than Nate and overall a much more talented fighter.

Condit is a skilled kickboxer & his legkicks were largely ineffective against Diaz. They didn't score nearly as much damage as Bendo or Cerrone did on Nate.

GSP will use a lot more wrestling than Bendo did. Takedown defense has always been Nick's biggest weakness. Hopefully he's trained in it to make this GSP fight competitive.

The majority of Condits leg kicks weren't shit though. The kicks Bendo utilized were much more aggressive. When Condit committed to the leg kick from his power leg, they did damage. Most of the time he utilized near side leg kicks. More like leg jabs.

[end it with a left]

Why would Nick want to train his tdd? He has great sweeps and needs to practice those more. Or even practice setting up a sub from the take down. Or hell try practicing the timing of GSPs take downs to land knees. GSP better not get complacent in Nicks guard cause its definately a nasty one

[DanC]

Originally Posted by dgil

Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz.

I agree man, they're not the same, but the author of the article is right - there are many, many significant similarities in the way that they fight, and they can't be ignored.

Nate has based his boxing style on Nick's, and it's a style that is very much their own. They're also both very well known for their dangerous guard and both have highlight reel submissions that they've found from their backs (Diaz's gogoplata over Gomi, and Nate's 'middle finger' triangle of Pellegrino).

The two more significant aspects of both brother's fighting styles are:
Their awkward (yet effective and exciting to watch) boxing style that consists mostly of half-power body shots as well as long, rangey punches that come in from unusual angles; and their extremely active (and also effective) guard.

I think Ben has definitely given GSP a whole load of pointers on how to best neutralise a Diaz skillset. GSP is an even more effective and dominant wrestler than Henderson (relative to his weight-class) and has a very secure, stable, and system top-game.

I don't GSP will want to stand with Nick, too many times we've seen Diaz pour it on guys and finish them with his high-volume output, and I don't think GSP will want to stand and take that risk.

I felt like GSP had that fire back against Condit. He was dominant, but exciting too, and he took many more risks that we've seen him take in his 5 fights at least. I'd like to see GSP fired up again and looking to finish. Diaz will be going out there looking to pull off the upset, so I think he'll come out fast and strong early on, but will walk into the first of many takedowns GSP will likely get during the fight.