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12-21-2012, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ftballdk  His chin can take a shot - the side of his head can't. It's the champ killer, no one can take that shot cept for maybe Neo. | Tell that to Kongo. He dropped Cain every time he touched him
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12-21-2012, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TN94z Tell that to Kongo. He dropped Cain every time he touched him | Are you saying Kongo doesn't have legitimate power when he connects clean ? Cause he has dropped a few people besides Cain.
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12-21-2012, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lesnar_FTW Cain would have got KOed regardless. | A striker's evasiveness relies on their footwork. What kind of footwork can you do other than forward plodding? Lateral motion is nearly impossible.
Cain will be much more effective. You will not see a flash KO.
Fighting through a torn ACL is not the brightest thing to do. But, Cain has suffered the consequences of his first loss and this will not be a short affair.
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12-21-2012, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniggles A striker's evasiveness relies on their footwork. What kind of footwork can you do other than forward plodding? Lateral motion is nearly impossible.
Cain will be much more effective. You will not see a flash KO.
Fighting through a torn ACL is not the brightest thing to do. But, Cain has suffered the consequences of his first loss and this will not be a short affair. | Agree on all points
Ive actually blown my ACL out (2 years removed from surgery) and continued playing sports while it was torn (MRI's kept saying there wasnt a tear - good ol' canadian health care right there...) Going forward was literally the only movment i could do without popping my knee out of place. The fact that Cain faught with a torn ACL speaks volumes about how much heart this guy has.
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12-21-2012, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise Are you saying Kongo doesn't have legitimate power when he connects clean ? Cause he has dropped a few people besides Cain. | Didn't say that. I'm saying JDS hits harder. And if Kongo dropped him like that, JDS will KO him again if he lands any shot at all. He dropped him too early for the injury to have made much of a difference IMO. I like Cain, don't get me wrong. I just don't think he can beat JDS.
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12-21-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BonesKnows Agree on all points
Ive actually blown my ACL out (2 years removed from surgery) and continued playing sports while it was torn (MRI's kept saying there wasnt a tear - good ol' canadian health care right there...) Going forward was literally the only movment i could do without popping my knee out of place. The fact that Cain faught with a torn ACL speaks volumes about how much heart this guy has. | Most guys are on crutches 2 weeks after tearing an ACL much less competing at high level. So no question on his heart and willingness to fight.
While I think JDS wins is a better fighter it would be shortsighted to not think that a torn ACL severely limited what Cain could do. It surely would effect your movement and ability to slip and dodge punches.
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12-21-2012, 06:09 PM
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I _STILL_ say this fight is a coin flip as to who is going to win. Both of these guys are killers. I dont think we'd ever know who the absolute best of the two is short of a deadliest warrior 1000 battle simulation type plan.
Off topic, but spike needs to bring that sh*t back, and now. best non mma programming they ever did.
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12-21-2012, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TN94z Didn't say that. I'm saying JDS hits harder. And if Kongo dropped him like that, JDS will KO him again if he lands any shot at all. He dropped him too early for the injury to have made much of a difference IMO. I like Cain, don't get me wrong. I just don't think he can beat JDS. | Cain has improved a ton since that fight. He's gotten a lot better at setting up his wrestling; he kept getting caught in that fight because he would just bull rush in at that point in his career.
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12-21-2012, 06:43 PM
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What does a torn acl have to do with having a glass jaw?
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12-21-2012, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by goodtimes Cain has improved a ton since that fight. He's gotten a lot better at setting up his wrestling; he kept getting caught in that fight because he would just bull rush in at that point in his career. | Agreed. But who says JDS hasn't gotten better too?
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