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12-30-2012, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by H0SS I think you're missing the point. Cain was able to hurt JDS and sap him of his cardio within the first round. BUT... Cain looked like he was too careful to try and commit to the finish, even though JDS was basically an exhausted zombie for the majority of that fight.
Even though he did beat the hell out of Dos Santos, it wasn't the kind of domination that makes you think JDS was completely outclassed as a fighter. The fact that so many people want to see a 3rd fight, and still think JDS could win it should tell you something.
The Shogun-Jones fight. Now THAT was a complete ass-whooping were Shogun was just outclassed in every aspect. No one really wants to see a rematch because of how dominant Jones was. Cain's performance wasn't anything like that. 
In case you forgot how brutal of a beating Shogun took... | Have to say that I do agree with you.
It wasn't the domination it could have been because Cain was too cautious.
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12-30-2012, 03:29 PM
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Man I never really thought I'd be defending JDS, especially after he went on about being able to beat the K Brothers in a boxing match. But yeah the dude showed the heart of a champ and I was pulling for him to come out of blue with a Rocky Movie like comeback KO. I think a 3rd fight will be very interesting. Does anyone know if JDS is a black belt in Ju Jitsu? I know he's Brazilian so he born at least blue belt...
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12-30-2012, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by H0SS I still don't think you understand my point, but I'm not going to bother further explaining it to you. It would just devolve this thread to me humiliating you front of everyone... again.
Why don't you stick to what you're good at: jerking off to boy-shaped playdough while reminiscing about that time you found out Santa Clause wasn't real and then getting molested by him. | The only person you are humiliating is yourself with your stupid comments lol.
I know exactly what your saying it's just that I disagree with it. It really shouldn't be that hard to fathom.
Don't get mad buddy, it's just an mmaforum...and keep your past Christmas stories to yourself...please, for the love of God.
And Sniggs it may not been quite what it could have been, but JDS was definitely outclassed. He got owned on the feet, in the clinch, on the ground...everywhere.
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12-30-2012, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by v3xi
@PashaK from the post above, JDS was stuffing take downs in round 5 when he should have been absolutely dead at that point. The damage he took is what caused him to fade so early. | Yes but Cain was absolutely gassed at that point too.
In round 2, 3 and 4 JDS was being taken down at will. Though an impressive thing from JDS, is that even though he was extremely damaged and tired, he always managed to get back to his feet.
Which makes me wonder if he is really that fucking awesome at doing that, or if Cain's wrestling is a bit overrated.
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12-30-2012, 03:32 PM
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Don't know why you are baiting him dbader, there really is no point. His opinion differs from yours. Accept it and move on.
Do you think you are going to change his mind by putting him in your sig and insulting him?
You'll only get a verbal beatdown and you will both walk away from the computer at a negative point in your day.
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12-30-2012, 03:42 PM
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Because it should be obvious to see that JDS got completely outclassed.
Isn't that what this thread is about?
If somebody is going to say dumb things like they are more impressed with JDS in this fight than Cain, then I am going to react to them as if they said something dumb.
Plus, as I said earlier...how is a 25 minute complete domination not as impressive as a flash KO...especially in the HW division where anyone can be knocked out with 1 strike...
JDS had 25 minutes to do the same thing this time that he did in under a minute the last time...and he came nowhere close...and it will be the same story in a rematch unless JDS catches him early again. And based off of how easily Cain dominated him everywhere, I don't see that happening.
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12-30-2012, 03:43 PM
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BTW Cain literally rearranged JDS's face. It is really hard to recognize him.
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12-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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I'm trying to remember if there has been so much disrespect shown towards a dominant performance before.
The way JDS is being talked about, you would think Roy Nelson would get the same kind of love.
I guess being able to get your head caved in for 25 minutes is a strength.
I would like to ask, would you rather have JDS/Cain I happen to you, or JDS/Cain II happen to you?
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12-30-2012, 03:52 PM
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Kind of amusing how JDS knocking out Cain in the first fight was a pure "domination", but Hendricks blasting Kampmann and Fitch was a fluke, and not a good indicator...
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12-30-2012, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris Kind of amusing how JDS knocking out Cain in the first fight was a pure "domination", but Hendricks blasting Kampmann and Fitch was a fluke, and not a good indicator... | MMA Fans for you...
You don't see me making excuses or hiding from my favorite fighters when the Diaz bros and Shogun lose...or discrediting their opponent's victories...
and Sakara I would much rather be Cain in the first fight than JDS in the 2nd one.
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