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12-31-2012, 11:34 AM
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Then why not announce that Gustafsson is the next in the line??
He said that Gustafsson vs Shogun was a No. 1 contenders match. Or did he lied......AGAIN????
If he does not want Gustafsson, why not say that if Hendo beats Machida, then Hendo will be the next for a title shot??
But no. Once again they decide to skip the legit contenders and give it to a guy that has zero fights in the LHW division only because they like him.
Cormier is a very good fighter, and I think he could be a threat for Jones. But once again this is another bitchslap to Gustafsson, Machida and Henderson.
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12-31-2012, 11:49 AM
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Cormier is a legit threat to Jon Jones' belt. Maybe they should make him versus Goose for his first UFC fight. I know we haven't seen DC at LHW, but in my mind if he can tool Barnett then he should absolutely tool 205 guys. He trains with Cain and has the wrestling to dictate everywhere the match goes. That should make him be able to control the pace thus maintaining his cardio (in my mind).
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12-31-2012, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K Then why not announce that Gustafsson is the next in the line??
He said that Gustafsson vs Shogun was a No. 1 contenders match. Or did he lied......AGAIN????
If he does not want Gustafsson, why not say that if Hendo beats Machida, then Hendo will be the next for a title shot??
But no. Once again they decide to skip the legit contenders and give it to a guy that has zero fights in the LHW division only because they like him.
Cormier is a very good fighter, and I think he could be a threat for Jones. But once again this is another bitchslap to Gustafsson, Machida and Henderson. | I have a question for you. You have repeatedly stated that "Dana is a habitual liar", and he has indeed reneged on promised title shots. If that's the case, why do you get upset every time Dana promises somebody a title shot? Like others have said, that's 7-8 months before he has to follow through, which means he will probably revoke that proposal.
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12-31-2012, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K Then why not announce that Gustafsson is the next in the line??
He said that Gustafsson vs Shogun was a No. 1 contenders match. Or did he lied......AGAIN????
If he does not want Gustafsson, why not say that if Hendo beats Machida, then Hendo will be the next for a title shot??
But no. Once again they decide to skip the legit contenders and give it to a guy that has zero fights in the LHW division only because they like him.
Cormier is a very good fighter, and I think he could be a threat for Jones. But once again this is another bitchslap to Gustafsson, Machida and Henderson. | Like I said, injuries will be key in the coming months. What if the winner of Hendo/Machida is badly injured and needs 6-12 months off? That's why they probably announced Gusaffsson as #1 contender to fill that slot.
What if either Machida/Henderson gets injured? Gustaffson can step in and keep himself busy and put another win in.
What if Sonnen gets injured? Gustaffson can step in and get his title shot. Or he may decline it, not being entirely ready, and the UFC can slot Cormier in there. It would make sense then.
Cormier fights in 2 weeks. I dont think he will be waiting around. He will work on his diet, and get a fight in at LHW to see how he feels. I can the UFC giving him the winner of Rashad/Lil Nog. Perhaps Phil Davis, Vinny.
Either way, with Jones/Sonnen fighting in April, the next contender will be waiting until late summer to fight again. Anything can happen. We all know the injury situation. Nobody wants a UFC 151 bs again. UFC is looking to be prepared for all possible outcomes.
The whole point is, the UFC is throwing names out there, putting these guys in the spotlight to get buzz going about them so that when these guys happen to step in for someone injured, the fans know who they are.
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12-31-2012, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat I have a question for you. You have repeatedly stated that "Dana is a habitual liar", and he has indeed reneged on promised title shots. If that's the case, why do you get upset every time Dana promises somebody a title shot? Like others have said, that's 7-8 months before he has to follow through, which means he will probably revoke that proposal. | Yes you are right. I have to finish accepting that he will say one thing and then he will do a whole different one. That is what he has been doing forever anyway.
Sucks for the fighters that try to get a title shot in a legit way though.
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12-31-2012, 12:30 PM
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didn't DC said that there's no way he can go down to LHW because of the weight cut issue? even if he does end up going down to LHW somehow, i'm not sure how he will fare. he's either gonna be a monster and dominates everyone or will get destroyed. i really do think he should fight one more fight at LHW before he challenges jones for the title.
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12-31-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K There is no point of being surprised or angry anymore. The UFC indeed is becoming the UFE. As long as that bum is the president, we can not expect anything better. | This is coming from the guy who has the Undertaker as his display picture. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasha K Yes I know that Cormier at least is not Chael Sonnen.
If there was absolutely no one left to face Jones, then I agree that it should be Cormier. But what about Gustafsson and the winner of Machida-Hendo?? | Well really its worse than Chael as chael has at least faught at 205 before, Cormier has never faught at LHW, i guess i see how that is better than Sonnen? Don't let your dislike for sonnen affect your judgement on other situations or fights. Quote:
Originally Posted by CtGreat The UFC tries to steer away from rematches. The only fights left for Jones at LHW are gustofson and Hendo...everything else would be a rematch. I think the UFC prefers to try and have fresh contenders fighting for the belt. | Especially since all of them (minus rashad) were all FINISHED by Bones Jones. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasha K Then why not announce that Gustafsson is the next in the line??
He said that Gustafsson vs Shogun was a No. 1 contenders match. Or did he lied......AGAIN????
If he does not want Gustafsson, why not say that if Hendo beats Machida, then Hendo will be the next for a title shot??
But no. Once again they decide to skip the legit contenders and give it to a guy that has zero fights in the LHW division only because they like him.
Cormier is a very good fighter, and I think he could be a threat for Jones. But once again this is another bitchslap to Gustafsson, Machida and Henderson. | There cant be more than 1 top contender in a division? I think this just goes to show how deep the LHW division is (eventhough Jones has finished basically 90% of the top contenders). It is not a bitchslap in the face to machida, Bones already provided that himself when he made Machida his fastest finish since becoming champion, and hendo bitchslapped himself keeping his injury secret and telling the UFC at the last minute. As for Gustafsson, he has beat 1 top 10 fighter in the UFC, hes still a big name fight away from the title IMO.
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12-31-2012, 01:20 PM
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It says an awful lot about the UFC having any validity in MMA as a sport when potentially 2 consecutive challengers for a title have never won in the division.. Essentially, the message they're sending to their fans and fighters alike is that the 205lb division means nothing (much the same message as 170, in fact).
Oh and Bonesknows, the reason there are more then 1 "top" contender in most of the divisions right now, is because the champions arent fighting them. They're chasing vanity fights, or taking "money" fights, instead of fighting the contenders who deserve it, when they deserve it.
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12-31-2012, 01:22 PM
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I'm cool with this, just because in my eyes wins at a higher weight class should carry over to moving down in weight. DC was looking chunky as hell ringside the other night. I think the weight will melt off with a proper diet, hell he may not even need to cut any weight.
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12-31-2012, 01:25 PM
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okay i just have to ask roaddawg does that chick have butt implants?
anyway DC getting a title shot at 205 doesnt bother me at all, compared to chael or diaz getting title shots Cormier is absolutely legit
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