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[Pasha K]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

This is coming from the guy who has the Undertaker as his display picture.

pfffff and your point is?
I am saying that WWE is a legit sport or that The Undertaker should fight for the LHW title??

Well really its worse than Chael as chael has at least faught at 205 before, Cormier has never faught at LHW, i guess i see how that is better than Sonnen? Don't let your dislike for sonnen affect your judgement on other situations or fights.

Oh DEAR!!!!
Chael Sonnen fought the last time at LHW like 7 or 8 years ago. And that is not even the point. He comes from being destroyed in a championship bout in the MW division, and immediately got a shot at the LHW title.
Cormier at least comes from a victory by KO against BigFoot, and a dominant win over Barnett in the HW division.
Stylistically Cormier can be a very dangerous fight for Jones. Chael Sonnen in paper should not last more than 1 round!!
Do not let your fanatism for Sonnen affect your judgment. There is no way the Sonnen-Jones fight can be deffended. It is the most non sensical fight in the history of any sport.

There cant be more than 1 top contender in a division?

The name "Number one contender" exists for a reason.
And even if they want to have 4 or 5 number one contenders, OK, but they should be legit contenders. They should have fought their way to the Top.
Gustafsson is a legit contender, he has 6 wins in a row. All in a dominant way.
Hendo is a legit contender. He left Strikeforce being the LHW champion, then he TKOd Fedor Emelianenko, then he had a great fight against Shogun Rua.
Machida is a legit contender, the argument that he lasted the less with Jones is absolutely invalid. Because in one round, he looked better than everybody else that have lasted 3 or 4 or 5 rounds.
Plus, if he beats Hendo, there will no be any doubts left that he is a Top contender.

MMA4EVERR says that UFC is naming more than one fighter "The Number one contender" in case of injuries. That's OK.
But here you have already Gus, Hendo and MAchida as contenders. It is very very difficult that the 3 of them are going to be injured.
If for some reason, the 3 of them can not fight. Then OK, throw Cormier there. But why are they going to skip all of those 3 without any reason and simply give the title to Cormier??

Why they gave the title shot to Vitor Belfort??
Why Jones will be defending his title shot in April against Sonnen?? As far as I know, the real contenders are not injured and could very well fight in April. AT least Gustafsson can.

As for Gustafsson, he has beat 1 top 10 fighter in the UFC, hes still a big name fight away from the title IMO.

Aaaah OK. Just like Chael Sonnen did, right?

[1inthechamber]

I'm all for Cormier fighting Jones but I say let him face a top 5 first, maybe Rashad.

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by 1inthechamber

I'm all for Cormier fighting Jones but I say let him face a top 5 first, maybe Rashad.

UFC wont risk him getting a loss. Usually in these situations they will toss him a lightly ranked top 10.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by 1inthechamber

I'm all for Cormier fighting Jones but I say let him face a top 5 first, maybe Rashad.

Any champion from any org should get an immediate pass to fight the champion of another org imo. To believe otherwise kinda defeats and diminishes the champions belt and what it stands for.. my 2¢

I am assuming ofcourse that by winning the hw tourney that DC is the current SF hw champion.

[joeodd2]

It's Dana's toy box and he makes the rules....unfortunately no matter how hard he tries he can't make the greater sporting community respect the sport of MMA with that kind of attitude. There needs to be structure, order, transparency, an unbiased and fair promoter of not just a brand but the sport of Mixed Martial Arts. Otherwise I fear this sport languishing in the sub-sport category for many years in many sports fans minds even worse a trendy thing watch every once in a while. Something celebrities and college kids amuse themselves with... There are benefits to how Dana and company chooses to run the UFC, but there are also drawbacks.

It's not fair to say that they rely solely on super fights and freakshow matches to grow the brand and the sport, they had put in plenty of hard work and took the time to build a foundation. But I think they underestimate how much foundation there is left to build, or maybe the nature of the foundation that they need to build. I may sound like a broken record, but right now words like RESPECT, DISCIPLINE, HONOR, words almost synonymous with Traditional Martial Arts does not translate as well when you talk about Mixed Martial Arts especially in the context of the UFC. Many fight fans don't care about that shit, but for a sport to claim to represent Martial Arts at it's highest level, and for it to be missing those ingredients seems to give this sport a pretentious air. There are just things you have to translate into a sport like MMA from TMA in order to make it a true Pinnacle of Martial Arts. Otherwise you just have a cage fight. Now don't get me wrong, MMA doesn't have to be as stiff and rigid as TMA, there can be a balance between entertainment and traditional martial arts values, but the UFC does not seem interested in exploring that philosophy...... I think the UFC is now starting to coast on their own hype...just a little bit for now....but the trend does not look promising.

End Rant. Happy New Year!

[The Donosaur]

I'm with Pashak on alot of this. DC-Bones would be awesome, and Chael-Bones TUF is probably gonna be super entertaining, but that's not the point of a sport. What's the point of working your way up the rankings if you are just gonna keep getting passed over? If I was Hendo or goose I would stop taking tough fights. Eventually they are gonna lose, and then all that work is gonna be erased. I just wouldn't take the risk if there is no reward.

Roaddawg while I disagree with your stance that a champ from another organization should get an automatic title shot, you are making a good case for Hendo who was the Strikeforce champ of the weight class that Bones is in.

[kalebarker]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

Any champion from any org should get an immediate pass to fight the champion of another org imo. To believe otherwise kinda defeats and diminishes the champions belt and what it stands for.. my 2¢

I am assuming ofcourse that by winning the hw tourney that DC is the current SF hw champion.

Are you intentionally trolling? There are probably 100+ LHW champions from different orgs around the world. You think they all should gets shot over fighters like Gustaffson and Machida?

The championship belts mean they are the champion of their org only. To think a TKO champion is a more legit contender than Machida is ignoring the fact that there are different teirs of organizations and subsequently different leves of competition in different orgs.

Cormier is not the SF champ. He is the SF tourney champ. Ubereem is the champ unless he vacated it, in which case it would be vacant. Even if DC was the SF HW champ, it would be a completely different division.

[MIZjitsZOU]

Originally Posted by kalebarker

Cormier is not the SF champ. He is the SF tourney champ. Ubereem is the champ unless he vacated it, in which case it would be vacant. Even if DC was the SF HW champ, it would be a completely different division.

Yeah Cormier sucks. Beating bigfoot and barnett means he will probably suck ass at a lower weight.

[kalebarker]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

Yeah Cormier sucks. Beating bigfoot and barnett means he will probably suck ass at a lower weight.

I actually think he is better suited for LHW and the biggest threat to Jones. My point wasn't about his ability to fight at LHW. My point was, if he is going to get an immediate title shot because he is a champ, like RD suggested made sense, it would only make sense if it was the same weight class.

[MIZjitsZOU]

Originally Posted by kalebarker

I actually think he is better suited for LHW and the biggest threat to Jones. My point wasn't about his ability to fight at LHW. My point was, if he is going to get an immediate title shot because he is a champ, like RD suggested made sense, it would only make sense if it was the same weight class.

And I apologize for being an asshole sir.