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Sakara=Excitement 01-02-2013 05:40 PM

Ronda Rousey isn't a box office knockout for UFC 157 tickets
 
Ronda Rousey isn't a box office knockout for UFC 157 tickets - MMA Fighting

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While Ronda Rousey was the most talked about new star in mixed martial arts in 2012, it was considered a major risk when it was announced she would have her first match in the UFC as a pay-per-view headliner.

While major women's matches have done well as far as television ratings are concerned, only one MMA fight, the 2009 battle with Gina Carano vs. Cris "Cyborg" Santos, was a big ticket seller in a major arena as the main event. And no women's fight had been on, let alone headlined, a successful MMA pay-per-view show.

Furthering the risk is that Rousey's first opponent in defense of her UFC women's bantamweight title, essentially the former Strikeforce title belt being brought over, Liz Carmouche (7-2), was a name only known to hardcore MMA fans.

The location, the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif., was also a risk. While Rousey is from Southern California, the Los Angeles/Anaheim market has never been an easy one after the immediate sellout of the company's debut show there in 2006. Generally speaking, the more a city is run, outside of Las Vegas which is a strong casino market, the harder it is to sell tickets.

While the 2010 Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez heavyweight title fight at the Honda Center got off to a strong start even that wasn't an instant sellout. But most shows at the Honda Center or Staples Center in Los Angeles have in recent years done more in the range of 6,000 to 7,000 tickets over he first week of sales.

With tickets having gone on sale the week before Christmas, less than 5,000 tickets have been sold for the Feb. 23 date and the ticket gross is in the $600,000 range. That's slightly less tickets, and slightly more dollars, than the company's previous major event in the market, the Aug. 4 FOX show, headlined by Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Brandon Vera, at the same point in time.

It's slower early sales than most major UFC pay-per-view shows. There have been several Las Vegas shows that sold at a similar rate early, but that's a unique market because it's run so frequently, and casinos will buy tickets. Every UFC pay-per-view show, no matter what the first week advance is, will do in the $2 million range minimum, and the arena will be nearly full the night of the show.

The Southern California market has done strong walk-up business in the past. The Aug. 4 show ended up selling 10,151 tickets to the Staples Center and had 16,080 in the arena.

It's also ahead of the pace for UFC 150 in Denver on Aug. 11, headlined by Benson Henderson vs. Frankie Edgar for the lightweight title. It's also selling tickets ahead of the early pace of UFC 133, a show on Aug. 6, 2011, the company's second trip to Philadelphia, which was originally headlined by Rashad Evans vs. Phil Davis. When Davis was injured, Tito Ortiz took his place and sales turned around with the bigger name added to the main event.

For UFC pay-per-view main events, come the day of the show, there is always going to be a big crowd, whether sales start moving as the show gets closer, they discount tickets late, or, at times they give tickets away late.
But it is a sign that Rousey's media fame hasn't yet translated into people beating down the doors to buy tickets.

Rousey headlined two shows last year for Strikeforce, drawing 5,500 in Columbus, Ohio for her fight with Miesha Tate where she first won the title on a show that really catapulted her stardom. She drew 3,502 in San Diego for her fight with Sarah Kaufman on a show with a weak undercard, but one that did Strikeforce's best ratings of the year. Those were the first- and third-largest crowds of the five events Strikeforce produced in 2012.

The feeling is also that this show will generate more mainstream media interest the week of the show than all but the biggest events of the year. Rousey is expected to be everywhere, including places that usually don't promoter or cover UFC events. There is also the belief Carmouche will get far more media coverage and attention than most unknown fighters, because she is a former Marine who served in the Persian Gulf war and is the first openly gay fighter in UFC history.

The hope is that would translate into ticket sales, and more importantly, pay-per-view buys. Pay-per-view is usually a late impulse buy and late hype is very important. Attending live shows more often is something people plan out farther in advance. But media hype for an event doesn't guarantee success.

Women fights have garnered generally better crowd reactions at live shows than male fights, usually because they are different. Big fights have proven success at drawing television viewers. But as the main attraction, they are unproven, with one very successful live event and no real track record on pay-per-view.

Even during the period when boxers Christy Martin, Laila Ali and Mia St. John were well-known stars, they were undercard attractions and never really made a difference in pay-per-view numbers. The attempt to use Martin as a headliner, in a proposed fight with Lucia Rijker, considered by insiders as the best female fighter in the world at the time, ended up with poor ticket sales. When an injury caused the fight to be postponed, promoters decided against trying it again.

The lone boxing success was a gimmick fight when Ali faced Jaqui Frazier-Lyde in 2001. It was promoted as the daughters of the greatest boxing feud of the last 50 years, Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier, going at it. The curiosity led to 125,000 buys on pay-per-view, which was a number shockingly high for a show of that magnitude. But Frazier-Lyde was not even that serious of a boxer and whatever success that had was far more attributable to who their fathers were as opposed to the potential of women fighters headlining on pay-per-view.

roaddawg 01-02-2013 05:58 PM

Reason: She ain't fighting no damn body. This is exactly why Dana should have just waited on Cyborg to get her shit together or begged for Carano to break free from Hollywood.

Rousey is just gonna snap this chicks arm like a twig. You can't give fans a shitty main event and get surprised at ticket sales..... really?

grambino 01-02-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by roaddawg (Post 996000)
Reason: She ain't fighting no damn body. This is exactly why Dana should have just waited on Cyborg to get her shit together or begged for Carano to break free from Hollywood.

Rousey is just gonna snap this chicks arm like a twig. You can't give fans a shitty main event and get surprised at ticket sales..... really?

I'm not sure what's in the story, I thought I saw something about tickets for Rousey's box. Thought maybe she was rattling off some of that pre fight sex she likes so much.

v3xi 01-02-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by roaddawg (Post 996000)
Reason: She ain't fighting no damn body. This is exactly why Dana should have just waited on Cyborg to get her shit together or begged for Carano to break free from Hollywood.

Rousey is just gonna snap this chicks arm like a twig. You can't give fans a shitty main event and get surprised at ticket sales..... really?

Rousey's opponent does not matter at all. You really think having Cyborg in this match would affect ticket sales? Almost no one I know who watches UFC even knows who Rousey is.

If UFC wanted a bigger live gate they should have had this fight in Canada because we don't really care as much who is on the card, we just enjoy the fights in general.

Y2JUBAE 01-02-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by v3xi (Post 996011)
Rousey's opponent does not matter at all. You really think having Cyborg in this match would affect ticket sales? Almost no one I know who watches UFC even knows who Rousey is.

If UFC wanted a bigger live gate they should have had this fight in Canada because we don't really care as much who is on the card, we just enjoy the fights in general.

I agree, the biggest women's fight in the world wouldn't be a big ppv draw.

Maybe Gina Corano vs.Rousey would do the biggest numbers. Whatever happened to that "comeback"? I remember SF advertising it.

Qball1974 01-03-2013 02:53 AM

Should have started her on Fox or FX, with all her magazine sales the casual viewer may tune in.

MIZjitsZOU 01-03-2013 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by v3xi (Post 996011)
Rousey's opponent does not matter at all. You really think having Cyborg in this match would affect ticket sales? Almost no one I know who watches UFC even knows who Rousey is.

If UFC wanted a bigger live gate they should have had this fight in Canada because we don't really care as much who is on the card, we just enjoy the fights in general.

No one you know, that watches UFC, has a clue to who she is? All my fight friends do, but I guess that could be the fact that I made them come and watch her Strikeforce fights.

sonofsteven 01-03-2013 06:26 AM

Damn Ive said it before this one have been a perfect co-maiin event for a Fox card. Makeit a title establisher fight and put it right before Mighty Mouse and Dodson's title fight.

dan the man 67 01-03-2013 07:23 AM

I bought a 6-fights-for-the-price-of-5 deal with DirecTV, my satellite provider. I was a little pissed when they announced the Rousey fight as a headliner, and that it would fall within the 6 fights of my package. I doubt I would have ordered on it's own unless it had a super-stacked undercard.

Sakara=Excitement 01-03-2013 01:44 PM

Less than 5,000 tickets sold for upcoming UFC 157 pay-per-view headlined by Ronda Rousey - MMAmania.com

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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is making history next month when newly-crowned women's bantamweight titleholder Ronda Rousey puts her strap on the line against Strikeforce import Liz Carmouche in the main event of UFC 157, which emanates from the Honda Center in Anaheim, California on Feb. 23, 2013.

And ticket sales for the groundbreaking pay-per-view have yet to match the hype surrounding Rousey's debut.

The "Rowdy" one has taken the mixed martial arts (MMA) world by storm, following her undefeated run through the 135-pound ranks of Strikeforce, which includes six straight first-round submission finishes by way of gruesome armbar, along with mainstream media coverage by ESPN, Jim Rome, TMZ and more.

But according to Dave Meltzer of MMA Fighting, her appeal has yet to equate to box office bucks.

With tickets having gone on sale the week before Christmas, less than 5,000 tickets have been sold for the Feb. 23 date and the ticket gross is in the $600,000 range. ... It's slower early sales than most major UFC pay-per-view shows. There have been several Las Vegas shows that sold at a similar rate early, but that's a unique market because it's run so frequently, and casinos will buy tickets. Every UFC pay-per-view show, no matter what the first week advance is, will do in the $2 million range minimum, and the arena will be nearly full the night of the show.

Despite the slow start, it's still way too early to call UFC 157 a bust.

Especially considering it's "ahead of the pace for UFC 150 in Denver," an event headlined by Ben Henderson vs. Frankie Edgar for the lightweight title. As Meltzer points out, it's "also selling tickets ahead of the early pace of UFC 133, a show on Aug. 6, 2011, the company's second trip to Philadelphia."


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