 | |
01-09-2013, 11:20 AM
|
#11 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: Ed Soares's #1 contender Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,844
|
I think he was complaining. I don't see how you can read that, and say otherwise, unless you think he is saying that right now he is unworthy of a title shot. If that's the case, and he is saying he will fighr anyone so there is no doubt that he deserves it, then good for him. That's not what I got out of it though. The way I read it is that he thinks he deserves a shot, but the UFC won't give him Silva so he wants to force the issue. Both interpretations have the same result which is him wanting to fight top contenders, but besides that it's a matter of if you think that he thinks he deserves a shot right now.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 11:51 AM
|
#12 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: Blobfish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ontario Posts: 4,199
|
Lombard's gonna have to step up the trash talk if he wants a title shot; that blurb isn't cutting it.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 01:33 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: Champion Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,809
|
Honestly, he's at least as worthy a contender as Bisping. Id say a finish on paul harris, and a close decision loss to botesch is at least as good as a decision against stann and a close loss to sonnen. If you take the records before that into account, its Lombard all day long.
__________________ |
| |
01-09-2013, 01:55 PM
|
#14 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: Ed Soares's #1 contender Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,844
| Quote:
Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris Honestly, he's at least as worthy a contender as Bisping. Id say a finish on paul harris, and a close decision loss to botesch is at least as good as a decision against stann and a close loss to sonnen. If you take the records before that into account, its Lombard all day long. | I agree, but the conversation should be Weidman and then everybody else.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 02:07 PM
|
#15 (permalink)
| | Reputation: 500+
Status: Amateur Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 316
| Quote:
Originally Posted by The Donosaur I agree, but the conversation should be Weidman and then everybody else. | Im not trying to troll, but what has Weidman done that is so impressive? Key word impressive not good.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 02:22 PM
|
#16 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: Champion Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,809
| Quote:
Originally Posted by The Donosaur I agree, but the conversation should be Weidman and then everybody else. | I agree whole-heartedly.
Bork: When he beat Munoz, Mark was ranked pretty high.. Id say maybe #3-4, and Weidman smashed him. There was no question about that victory until Bisping told the mush-heads what to think about Munoz.
Lets not forget the 2 weeks notice UD over Maia. It may not have been pretty, but a W is still better then a L, again, unless your a Bisping fan.
__________________
Last edited by W.Silva>C.Norris; 01-09-2013 at 02:26 PM.
Reason: I forgot.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 02:49 PM
|
#17 (permalink)
| | Reputation: 500+
Status: Amateur Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 316
| Quote:
Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris I agree whole-heartedly.
Bork: When he beat Munoz, Mark was ranked pretty high.. Id say maybe #3-4, and Weidman smashed him. There was no question about that victory until Bisping told the mush-heads what to think about Munoz.
Lets not forget the 2 weeks notice UD over Maia. It may not have been pretty, but a W is still better then a L, again, unless your a Bisping fan. | Far from a Bisping fan. And I'm not saying Weidman isnt good, I just think he is carrying way too much hype around here. Great win over Munoz sure, rather Munoz really deserved to be ranked that high or how good he really is or how much his injuries impacted his performance thats all up to debate. But thats it, like you said a very unimpressive win over maia and a UD on Sakara. So my point is he should be hyped as a up and comer not as a contender to the title. I can think of 5 great fights for him in this division other than Anderson which I'm not sure he would come out on top.
I dont think his record puts him leaps and bounds over other MWs as many people here think.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 02:50 PM
|
#18 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: The Geri Curl Warlord Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: with my parents of course Posts: 2,243
| Quote:
Originally Posted by The Donosaur I think he was complaining. I don't see how you can read that, and say otherwise, unless you think he is saying that right now he is unworthy of a title shot. If that's the case, and he is saying he will fighr anyone so there is no doubt that he deserves it, then good for him. That's not what I got out of it though. The way I read it is that he thinks he deserves a shot, but the UFC won't give him Silva so he wants to force the issue. Both interpretations have the same result which is him wanting to fight top contenders, but besides that it's a matter of if you think that he thinks he deserves a shot right now. | Ok lets review..... Quote: |
"Let's cut the bullshit, let's be honest, they won't give me Anderson Silva. We have to be realistic and talk about things that might happen. I've got to take one fight at a time and one-by-one I can take them out and by the end of the year people are going to say he deserves the title shot. I want it to just be my hard work. I want people to say that no one deserves the title more than him. I just don't want to fight guys that they say, 'Oh that was a easy match-up for him.' I want to fight the hardest match-up. I wish they (the UFC) could go now and make a pool of the toughest guys at 84kg that no one wants to fight and I want to fight that guy. I want to fight who the UFC and the people believe is the toughest guy out there. Not many people want to fight Palhares. Before we had the fight people were saying: 'Hector is gone, Palhares is taking Hector's leg back to Brazil.' I would like to fight Chris Weidman, he's a big name. I've been asking for (Yushin) Okami, I've been asking for Okami but they (UFC) won't give him to me because of his chin. Okami has no chin, he can't cop the punches. And where's Jake Shields? He's been around forever, he beat Dan Henderson. Those are the guys I want to fight.''
| Seems to me that he wants there to be no doubt about his worthiness to fight for the title. I'd think that would be an attitude most fans would applaude. He didn't say anything about the UFC protecting Anderson or that he's getting screwed. If you have a fighter you think can beat him, than he probably wants to beat that guy's ass.....
__________________
You can't process me with a normal brain! ~The Sheen
Scarface: Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, and fuck you, I'm out!
"I don't call the fighting in my films 'violent', I call it 'action'. An action film borders between fantasy and reality. If I were to be completely realistic in my films, you would call me a violent, bloody man. I would simply destroy my opponent by tearing his guts out. I wouldn't do it so artistically." ~Bruce Lee |
| |
01-09-2013, 03:29 PM
|
#19 (permalink)
| | Reputation: 1000+
Status: Contender Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 866
|
On Weidman: Its not how good he's looked and his finish over Munoz only. Just look at all other possible contenders and only he stands out, especially after two possible contenders got knocked down the latter a notch.
OT: I don't really see it as him bitching, but either way he's still saying he wants to face the toughest guys and make to where he cant be denied his shot. If he destroys Okami, I'd like to see him get Weidman, Vitor, or Bisping if he doesn't get his shot.
|
| |
01-09-2013, 03:30 PM
|
#20 (permalink)
| | Reputation: ∞
Status: Champion Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,231
| Quote:
Originally Posted by LefthookStcrook Spot on. The guy was groomed to get a title shot, all he had to do was win his UFC debut and he lost. Yeah it was "controversial"(imo it wasnt), But exactly like you said even IF he would've won the decision over Boetsch he STILL wouldnt have deserved the title shot...Itd be like giving Nick Di.....Nevermind!
Now thats been said, The images of Lombard absolutley destroying Jake Shields put a smile on my face, But I think he'd have a hard time with Okami personally, And I think Weidman beats him. | How could you possibly score that fight for Boetch?
The more I see of Hector the more I like him. He is fast and explosive like Vitor but with a much better grappling game.
__________________  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ykRz5TdpQ
Roses are gay,
Violets are gayer,
Fuck this Poem and listen to Slayer
|
| |  | | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is On | | | All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:20 PM. |
| Quick Member Login Top 5 Latest Threads Latest MMA News Advertisements |