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01-14-2013, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K I like some of the stuff he says, for example that he does not give a fuck about if fans like him or not. But sometimes he says stuff like "I was not showboating against BJ Penn, I was just trying to relax"...WTF?? | I think the shuffle is primarily used for showboating as Ali (who was a big showboater) originated it. However, I have sparred with a couple of guys before who have told me that this allows them to loosen up and distract their opponent. When Rory said this, I immediately thought of that. He also just never did the shuffle by itself, he immediately threw a combo after where all the shots landed cleanly. Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyKnox Rory takes fighting extremely personal. It seems that it's not simply a prize fight for him, or for a belt, but life as well as all of his pride. He embraces the spirit of fighting as it was before there was money and fame attached to it; to test skill and might, and to dominate or be dominated. I think he fights for the glory of his heart and soul and to prove himself to the world further than just a win. He may come off a little harsh but he's a darker sort of fighter like the Diaz brothers are brash. How the Diaz brothers have that dog sort of mentality in fighting, Rory has a killer mentality. He seems like he takes it as if it means his world to win.
I feel like to lose is to die in Rory's point of view.
I can dig it. I'm a big fan of this guy. I really hope he excels to the top throughout the years to come. I just hope he doesn't do lame Ali impersonations in the cage anymore. That was off. | I completely agree. You can really tell that he takes fighting extremely personally. For him, it's more than a win or a loss. You can tell this by his awkward post-fight interview challenging Condit. He talks about being embarrassed and how this haunts him to this day.
Also, the one thing I noticed about him which is different from all the new breed fighters is that he continuously says that he doesn't do this for money and fame, and would be fighting even if there was no money in it. I doubt you'll see guys like Jon Jones saying this openly who would love to pick his opponent based on the amount of PPV buys it'll generate.
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01-14-2013, 02:51 PM
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I have no problem with people taunting during fights at all, its been in the fight game for as long as I can remember, and there are plenty of examples of massive fails, one that comes to mind is James Toney trying to dance in front of Roy Jones Jr and getting knocked down, so it definitely comes with a risk.
What I don't like, and am wondering if some of you agree with me, is this change in personality that I think a lot of the new fighters have. I think the most evident example of this is Jon Jones, who started as this cocky guy look at his weight in with Vera, then he became more famous and started to play this overly humble guy and then that backfired so now he is cocky again... And I think this comes from the growth of the sport and more PR people getting involved. I see a little bit of this with Rory, where he was shy and now he is outspoken. However, when you look at guys like Wandy or Randy they have different personalities but they both had the same during their entire careers and I think fans relate to that a lot better and that is why those guys really have a die hard fan base. Not sure if this is making much sense, but what Im trying to say is that the more the sport grows more PR people will get involved and we will get to know the fighters less and lesss, because they will be coached by PR people. Thoughts?
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01-14-2013, 02:52 PM
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rory is either selling his first performance short or he's selling this upcoming fight, either way his recent showboating left me with sour grapes and a healthy respect for his meanstreak i hope condit teaches him a lesson in humility
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01-14-2013, 02:54 PM
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I think Rory is probably gay.
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01-14-2013, 03:02 PM
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you too can feel a lot better about your game and ragdoll ppl when your last 4 wins have been against 2 guys that belong in the lightweight division and the other 2 WW being Mike Pyle and Che Mills, all 4 guys you are physically bigger and stronger then. Condit is another beast and he sure as hell is not gonna like being beat by your teammate, keep that in mind.
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01-14-2013, 03:34 PM
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Rory you are really good. However Condit is not Bj. He will come in shape and he will not quit like BJ did. He went 5 rounds with the best WW in the world and came very close to winning the fight. Rory might win this fight cause Condit cant stop a takedown to save his life but it will not be a cake walk like he thinks
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01-14-2013, 03:39 PM
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Rory is a monster but I cant stand the guy anymore. I think he beats condit but not without a war, hope condit can "embarrass" him again.
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01-14-2013, 03:50 PM
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Their first fight Condit was able to sweep him from top control when Rory would take him down, no doubt, GSP will be working with him on sweep defense, and Rory will aim to beat Condit by doing what GSP did to him, however Condit has so many surprises, hopefully he can catch Rory with something.
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01-14-2013, 03:51 PM
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As far as Rory/Condit is concerned Rory is going to smash him...If I look at Condit of the first fight and Rory of the first fight I feel as if Rory is a completely different animal and I feel as if Condit is still pretty much the same monster he was then.
Rory was winning a decision in the 1st fight until he got humbled. Now I kinda think he finishes it within 2.
I'll will bet anyone on the board sig av or name..That Rory finishes this fight.
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01-14-2013, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by optimusjoel He's a killer, plain and simple. His mindset is of a man who believes himself to be the best fighter in the world. Those emotions he feels about losing pushed him to be better and I think we will see how much so come fight time. | Yup that's it. I'm not going to hate on the guy for being obsessed with being the best. He really has the perfect mind set for a fighter right now; doesn't give a fuck about anyone else and just wants to go out there and destroy the guy he's fighting.
I didn't really like his showboating against Penn. It doesn't suit his style, and I think he didn't do it "right". I believe showboating is a psychological tool. My favorite example is when RJJ taunted James Toney and got him to drop his hands and then knocked him down. Rory just started dancing once he decided to coast to a decision; was kind of dumb. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer I have no problem with people taunting during fights at all, its been in the fight game for as long as I can remember, and there are plenty of examples of massive fails, one that comes to mind is James Toney trying to dance in front of Roy Jones Jr and getting knocked down, so it definitely comes with a risk.
What I don't like, and am wondering if some of you agree with me, is this change in personality that I think a lot of the new fighters have. I think the most evident example of this is Jon Jones, who started as this cocky guy look at his weight in with Vera, then he became more famous and started to play this overly humble guy and then that backfired so now he is cocky again... And I think this comes from the growth of the sport and more PR people getting involved. I see a little bit of this with Rory, where he was shy and now he is outspoken. However, when you look at guys like Wandy or Randy they have different personalities but they both had the same during their entire careers and I think fans relate to that a lot better and that is why those guys really have a die hard fan base. Not sure if this is making much sense, but what Im trying to say is that the more the sport grows more PR people will get involved and we will get to know the fighters less and lesss, because they will be coached by PR people. Thoughts? | I saw your post after mine, love how you brought up the Toney/RJJ fight. The thing is RJJ was taunting Toney the whole fight, and Toney got pissed off and tried to taunt him back and got knocked down. It was beautiful.
As for personality changes, I think guys nowadays are much more famous at younger ages. Wanderlei and Randy fought in unknown events for a long time before they got popular. They learned to cherish the spotlight because they had to work so hard to get it. I think the younger guys are getting too famous too fast and don't know what to do with themselves.
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