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01-19-2013, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Leucoethiops Really? I think Davis and Bader are bad matchups for Mousasi. I'm not sure his TDD is enough to keep those guys from getting it to the ground where it doesn't matter that Gegard is throwing elbows, sub attempts and neutralizing them all day long; the judges don't seem to care.
I'd pick Davis to win more often than not, and Bader would be a coin toss.
Sensible matchups from a ranking perspective, but high risk and bad matchups stylistically,
I think there's a good chance Mousasi comes away from those fights with a decision loss, and another man's seed in his belly. | I do agree that they're not ideal match ups for him, I was thinking more about rankings then the actual matchups lol.
But if Mousasi couldnt get pass Davis or Bader then he really shouldn't be fighting Goose then. Good for Mousasi that he got such a high profile fight in his debut, as I said if he wins and the stars align, he could very well be getting a title shot.
Big risk for Goose in this one. But I see him walking away with the W.
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01-19-2013, 01:47 PM
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This is a bad match up for goose, gegard is a much better grappler and (on paper) a better striker.
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01-19-2013, 02:24 PM
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Ah ha. Yup yup. I like this match up, which will test the technical striking ability of Mousasi, as I've considered him slightly overrated.
Can't take anything away from Gegard, he's finished just about everybody he's faced, but I always saw him as a "top contender" rather than "champion in the making". I feel that King Mo established the blueprint to beat him. With guys like Rashad and Mr. Wonderful in the division, he's gonna need some careful match-making from Zuffa to reach a title fight.
I like Gus in the fight. It's not just that he has a reach advantage but he has very good movement. Oh wait, I just checked the stats and surprisingly Alex only has a 0.5 inch reach advantage (according to wiki) at 76.5" compared to Gegard at 76". Interesting, but I'm still picking Gus.
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01-19-2013, 02:37 PM
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This fight is awesome! I dont know who to root for. I want mousai to be successful in ufc, but i would hate to see goose lose when hes so close to a title shot.
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01-19-2013, 02:50 PM
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Love the fight. Really like both fighters. I think Mousasi takes it with a submission.
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01-19-2013, 03:28 PM
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Fuck yea! This should be a good fight.. If goose keeps it standing i think he will have a lot of trouble. He's gonna need to mix in some takedowns to keep moussasi guessing. I hope moussasi takes this.
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01-19-2013, 03:31 PM
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Yes!
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01-19-2013, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Goose took apart a perennial top 5 LHW. I think that's pretty impressive considering no one thought he could do it. | Seriously? A lot of people were picking to Goose to beat Shogun. He was even ta 2:1 betting favorite.
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01-19-2013, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise I think it has more to do with where he fits in ranking wise then the actual style of opponent. Goose is on the verge of a title shot where as Mousasi is 2-3 fights away at best. | Mousasi is kinda in the same position as Lombard was. He destroyed basically everybody before his UFC debut. Problem is that few of those fighters were considered Top opponents.
Still, Mousasi has defeated better competition than Lombard has. (Mousasi btw was the last one to beat Lombard before the UFC).
So IMO, if he beats Gus, it is very likely that he will get a title shot. Specially if he finish him.
If he does not get an immediate title shot after the win, well maybe he will be fighting someone like Machida.
To me he is just 1-2 wins away from a title shot.
His problem is that his personality is not the one that gives you fast title shots. He is quiet, he does not talk shit. Dana is not going to love that so much.
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01-19-2013, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K Mousasi is kinda in the same position as Lombard was. He destroyed basically everybody before his UFC debut. Problem is that few of those fighters were considered Top opponents.
Still, Mousasi has defeated better competition than Lombard has. (Mousasi btw was the last one to beat Lombard before the UFC).
So IMO, if he beats Gus, it is very likely that he will get a title shot. Specially if he finish him.
If he does not get an immediate title shot after the win, well maybe he will be fighting someone like Machida.
To me he is just 1-2 wins away from a title shot.
His problem is that his personality is not the one that gives you fast title shots. He is quiet, he does not talk shit. Dana is not going to love that so much. | Yea I agree for the most part, that if he were to defeat and finish Goose, he will justifiably prove he is not overrated and is a perennial top contender. I think one more solid UFC victory after Goose against a top 10 would solidify him a title shot.
And I don't think his quiet personality would be a reason for Dana to deny him a title shot. Other guys with quiet personalities like Machida, Edgar, Okami, Cain, Mighty Mouse, and I'm sure there are plenty more who have been given title shots by not talking shit to get one.
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