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[Kimbo> Rampage]

I want to see Weidman get the title shot...

I only have one guy more deserving at the Moment... Luke Rockhold... He is the SF champion, that means something... It will also be easier to sell for the UFC... They want to unify the belts as well.

Wins over Jacare and Kennedy are better than wins over Munoz and Maia in my book.

The only other guy I would not mind see getting the shot before Weidman is Lombard... He was on a huge win streak... The dominant bellator champion, with decent name recognition, exciting style, etc(the UFC takes that into account) And I had him winning over Boetch... It was an ugly fight for both guys, neither should be proud... But I still dont see how Boetch won.

Add to that if he beats Okami, he definitely has done more than Weidman... Okami is a legit top MW. A huge talent... I know anytime someone discredits Weidman's win over Munoz, they get criticized... but Munoz isnt Okami, he isnt an elite MW... He isnt a can, but not elite. Okami-Munoz proves that point... Okami won far more derisively than most think he was imo.

I really wanted/want to see Weidman take on someone like Okami, Vitor, Lombard, Sonnen, etc before getting his title shot... A true elite MW.

Since Lombard and Okami are fighting each other... If Anderson fights Luke or Hector... Weidman vs. Vitor should be made

[Cat--Smasher]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

I like this b/c I think Anderson would be more receptive to it.

I would also love to see Jacre vs. Weidman. That would be a very even match up imo.

I think Anderson would jump at the Rockhold fight. I remember him saying he wanted to fight Luke last year before he got switched over to the UFC. Plus, you could market it as a champ vs champ match.

Originally Posted by 1inthechamber

I believe I read somewhere that Rockhold is fighting Philipu in his debut.

Rockhold called out Philipu but the fight has yet to be booked.

[Bork_Lazer]

Originally Posted by cosmicsunn

how about luke rockhold? ufc could do a champion vs. champion match around summer and in the same card they could do maybe a jacre vs. weidman for number one contender?

Thanks for stealing my idea. But really those are the two fights I was about to suggest. Rockholds record isnt much greater then Weidman's, but he holds a title which is a good selling point, and Weidman really needs another win before his shot, and I think Jacare is the perfect guy, he is coming from 3 wins and he is a very experienced fighter.

All that being said I think Jacare beats Weidman, which kinda messes things up since he won't fight Silva.

[TBEAR]

Weidman deserves the shot. He has a real shot at beating Anderson. Chris' top game and BJJ aswell as his wrestling gives him a great shot at beating Anderson

[AnchorPunch]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

I like this b/c I think Anderson would be more receptive to it.

I would also love to see Jacre vs. Weidman. That would be a very even match up imo.

It always raises that question of what do you do with the Jacares and the Rorys of the world? The guys who are huge talents but won't fight for the title. I'm not sure I like them fighting guys as close in contention as Weidman. If Jacare wins, it's a log jam. If Weidman wins, it's not clear you could say he just beat a top 3 or 4 because Jacare won't fight up the ladder. Tough situation.

Originally Posted by rampage9712

Add to that if [Lombard] beats Okami, he definitely has done more than Weidman... Okami is a legit top MW. A huge talent...

I think that's the UFC's plan. Lombard is exciting, was on a title path from his signing, and is a terrible matchup for Okami. Okami loses in the standup to guys like Buddy Roberts; while Lombard's grabbling and speed are top notch. I think he'll KO Okami and get the title shot.

[BonesKnows]

refer to post in Rashad/AS thred.

Weidman will have not faught in over a year once he is back in the summer. You didnt get a title shot before you got hurt, why would you get one a year removed from your last fight.

If we are going to talk about #1 contender at MW its gotta be Vitor at this point. He is on a 3 fight win streak at MW and has finished all 3 of those fights (Akiyama KO Anthony Johnson SUB Michael Bisping TKO)

this guy (weidman) is really eager to get smashed by the greatest fighter to ever step foot on this earth

[Kimbo> Rampage]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

refer to post in Rashad/AS thred.

Weidman will have not faught in over a year once he is back in the summer. You didnt get a title shot before you got hurt, why would you get one a year removed from your last fight.

If we are going to talk about #1 contender at MW its gotta be Vitor at this point. He is on a 3 fight win streak at MW and has finished all 3 of those fights (Akiyama KO Anthony Johnson SUB Michael Bisping TKO)

this guy (weidman) is really eager to get smashed by the greatest fighter to ever step foot on this earth

Agree. Vitor could easily work his way back into contention, but imo he would have to do more than the other "fresh" contenders to get another shot... as with Okami or any other rematch.

I hope Chris can heal up quickly and they can make this fight in early summer... and go with Lombard or Rockhold from there, depending on how their fights play out... I like the idea of Luke getting a fight in the UFC before Anderson.. and CP is always game and very exciting... but you would think the SF champ would fight a top UFC MW.

[joeodd2]

Weidman should fight a true top contender first. If he fought Lombard and finished him, that would make a real statement. He doesn't just need a UD or a SD, he needs to finish someone with a big name. Like Vitor, Luke, Lombard, or even Jacare....Dana is pretty clear about guys who can either finish or talk, being more "deserving" of getting a title shot. I don't see Weidman cutting any witty youtube promos, so he better finish....

[Goremire]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

refer to post in Rashad/AS thred.

Weidman will have not faught in over a year once he is back in the summer. You didnt get a title shot before you got hurt, why would you get one a year removed from your last fight.

If we are going to talk about #1 contender at MW its gotta be Vitor at this point. He is on a 3 fight win streak at MW and has finished all 3 of those fights (Akiyama KO Anthony Johnson SUB Michael Bisping TKO)

this guy (weidman) is really eager to get smashed by the greatest fighter to ever step foot on this earth

I agree that Wediman's inactivity is going to count against him which is unfortunate. Realistically he's going to need to win (and win decisively) at least one more fight before getting a shot.

Vitor is a lot nearer the front of the queue based on his name value and the name value of the guy he just beat. The highlight reel KO manner of the victory didn't hurt. But the manner of his loss to Silva is counting against him.

As for Weidman being eager to get smashed, or the likelihood of him being smashed by Silva, why should that be a factor for him not getting a shot? If "likely being smashed by Silva" were a deal breaker in fighting the guy then no one at middleweight, hardly anyone at light heavyweight and hell even a bunch of heavyweights should also be precluded from fighting him.

Weidman is 5-0 in the UFC. He beat Maia on 2 weeks notice when Maia was ranked 5-6 in the world and Munoz when Munoz was 3-4. Maia has dropped down to Welterweight after Weidman beat him but again, why is this counting against him? How well have Bisping and Vitor's recent previous opponents faired since they beat them?

Then we get the fat-and-out-of-shape Munoz line (not in this thread but it's a common one) - coined by a guy in Michael Bisping who had a vested goddammed interest in running down a rival's achievements (which at the time Bisping hadnt come close to matching) but that's gospel now?

Watching that fight is a case study of setting traps for your opponent: firing high kicks to get Munoz to raise his hands which made the takedown more achievable, and throwing repeated right hands to bait Munoz into his own counter-right which Weidman counter-countered with the elbow. The guy made Munoz look bad because he had the skill and ability to do so, not because Munoz just didn't show up. Lest we forget, Munoz was 7-1 at middleweight with his only loss being a split-D to Okami when Weidman fought him, or that Munoz was originally slated to fight Sonnen in a title eliminator until he got injured and was replaced by Bisping.

The way I look at it, Weidman has earned the goddmaned right to take a shellacking at Silva's hands with his win streak and beating of higher ranked opponents. I'm struggling to remember ANY middleweight who knocked off two top 5 guys back-to-back - can someone help me out on that if I'm missing the obvious?

Like I said due to inactivity he's one fight away but a fit and healthy Chris Weidman is far and away the most legitimate number one contender at middleweight in my mind.

[CtGreat]

If Hecto beats Okami, imo he will be the clear cut #1 contender, for all the reasons Rampage listed. Add in the fact that Chris will have been out for a whole year and is coming off of an injury.