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01-23-2013, 11:03 AM
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I have a feeling Chael is gonna lose via doc stoppage due to a cut. He always gets cut up pretty bad in all his fights and JJ is a master at opening peoples faces up with them elbows. But until then i think it will be more competitive then most people think.
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01-23-2013, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe "Dry Humping" I love how wrestling gets that monicker now. I guess kicking is for pussies as well and we should all just resort back to boxing....
Jones vs Gustaffsson after one more impressive performance by Goose. Make it happen! | It's called dry humping because when people lay n pray they do very little damage. It's a technique that's great for nullifying your opponent and eaking by on points, and since point fighting is heavily frowned upon by fans of combat sports, people insult their style of fighting.
I wish they would implement a yellow card/stalling system. That way, instead of just standing the fighters back up for inaction, they can give a stalling warning; 2 warnings and you loose a point. This would apply to grapplers who make no attempt to pass guard/throw heavy punches, and for fighters who decide to fight like clay Guida in his last fight, Huston Alexander in his fight with Kimbo, or Silva in his fight with Maia after the 2nd round.
Implement a yellow card system, and eliminate octagon control. Instead make it 1 point per takedown, 2 for a slam, 1 for fully transitioning from full guard to side control, 1 point for full mount, 1 point for every 2 seconds you have your opponents back (for up to 3 points), 0.5 points for an escape, 2 for a reversal (encourages sweeps), nothing for a sub attempt (thats not effective aggression). Punches and kicks on the feet are scored as normal, and holding somebody against the cage doesn't net you any points unless you are throwing shots. I feel like that would make MMA much more entertaining/fair.
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01-23-2013, 11:12 AM
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That should be a great concern for Jones, because if that is what Chael succeeds at doing, he will win the fight.
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01-23-2013, 11:26 AM
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Anytime someone mentions "dry humping" this pops in my head. It's on Jones to stop it, but I'll be shocked if Chael wins this fight.
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01-23-2013, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat It's called dry humping because when people lay n pray they do very little damage. It's a technique that's great for nullifying your opponent and eaking by on points, and since point fighting is heavily frowned upon by fans of combat sports, people insult their style of fighting.
I wish they would implement a yellow card/stalling system. That way, instead of just standing the fighters back up for inaction, they can give a stalling warning; 2 warnings and you loose a point. This would apply to grapplers who make no attempt to pass guard/throw heavy punches, and for fighters who decide to fight like clay Guida in his last fight or Huston Alexander in his fight with Kimbo. | Hey I'm with you guys, I would love a penalty system put into place for fighters stopping or stalling and not advancing position or actively attacking.
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I was speaking on Wrestling in general being labeled "dry humping" now way too often which is a disgrace to the sport entirely since it is one of the basic first combat arts. Way big difference in "dry humping/lay n pray" and "actively grappling" mix that in with ground n pound and it gets nasty and... effective.
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01-23-2013, 02:02 PM
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Agreed with this. And I definitely wouldn't call Sonnen lay and pray; just maybe pillow-fists
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01-23-2013, 02:17 PM
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I don't usually mind wrestlers who are able to control their opponents, like Chael, Fitch, Davis, etc...
But then there are "fighters" like Tyron Woodley.... watching him fight makes me angry enough tomaoeusafgvadsiyovgadsuafsupafsuoylvfadsyfvdfk dsuvh weipuevb ahohoafojh lfvhVCOUDoyf(^%@edf@(tvfyugwb
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01-23-2013, 02:27 PM
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HA dryhump? Child please you dont wanna get "dryhumped" learn takedown D or subs or fuckin how to get up after a TD or shut the fuck up. This is JJ sad attempt to bait. Whether it be us internet know it alls , bookies , or Sonnen himself , its bait. Standing is JJ BEST matchup area against Sonnen and everyone knows it. Not to say the other areas would be drastically better but ......
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01-23-2013, 07:13 PM
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I thought Jones' biggest concern was having to give a title shot to Chael based on shit talking, but in the end it really didnt concern him at all.
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01-23-2013, 07:29 PM
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Lay n Pray is boring way to win a fight. But it can be effective. If the other guy cant stop it then, well he looses.
That being said, I do not believe Chael is very effective in terms of finishing, he is definitely not a LnP fighter. When he gets a guy down he is constantly working and throwing strikes. He just doesnt have fight ending power, but he can do some damage.
Like I said with Silva...25 is just too long of a fight for Chael to not get caught either by elbows or take downs and GnP from Jones. I think Chael is both Overrated and Underrated at the same time. Like it or not he is a legit threat to anyone, but his style just does not match up well in a 25 min fight against a guy who is a finisher, especially a guy who can finish fights in multiple ways.
As far as the "dryhumping" comment, I think that was just Bones taking a shot at Sonnen.
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