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01-23-2013, 08:43 AM
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Silva has beaten EVERYONE that was put in front of him EASILY except ONE fight....Dont even try to say anything about the guy in the octagon...the dude is the GOAT... Weidman should just stfiu and fight who hes told to fight...
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01-23-2013, 08:52 AM
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I've grown tired of people trying to shit talk their way into fights. There must be a better way to get public intrest in your brand (athletes are their own brand of product, they must market themselves to develop a demand) besides making a diss track. Every time I see somebody do this, it makes me think of The Game making diss tracks about everybody, since he needs the attention to produce album sales.
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01-23-2013, 08:54 AM
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Where to begin...
People say that Chael is one of the greats and that Maia was an easy win, I guess Sonnen sold himself so well that people forget what Maia did to him in their fight, one of the coolest hip tosses transitioning into a sub I have ever seen. Im not hating on Chael (phenomenal athlete), just saying Maia is damn good as well. As a matter of fact if he beats Fitch in his upcoming fight, thats 3 in a row in a stacked division, which brings me to my next point.
The MW division isnt weak, Silva just makes it look weak because every time a guy gets to the top they look like a kid against him. Heres my point, Dan Henderson left the MW division and is now top 3 in the LHW and Maia left the MW division and is now fighting a guy who is clearly top 4. Oh and these guys according to everyone werent even the best at MW, so how is it that the MW division is weak but people moving to other divisions are doing so well?
Like someone already mentioned, when Anderson fought Leites he was 14-1 with a win over Marquardt, which is a very good record, but Anderson made him look so bad that Leites became a weak opponent, but his record is still 20-4 which is still very good. So Weidman comes in with a 9-0 record and a lot of people here are saying he poses great threat to Anderson, but what do you think will happen when he gets beat via fireball in 30 seconds, a few month later Weidman will become another weak opponent Silva beat out of his weak division.
I really dont see the claim for WW being a stronger division then MW. Lets take a look at GSP's title defenses and you will see that it is very easy to discredit someones challengers after the fact. (I am not hating on GSP, he is a beast. I think both divisions are incredible, just trying to prove a point) Matt Serra - not have to say much more, Dan Hardy - just bailed from a 4 loss streak, BJ Penn - has no business fighting at WW, Josh Kosheck - one dimensional fighter who cant block a jab, Thiago Alves - one dimensional and cant string 2 wins together.
I dont think Kosheck is better than Okami I dont think Fitch is better than Chael I dont think Alves is better than Henderson I dont think Hardy is better than Maia and the list goes on.
Again, really not hating on GSP, but I think that if he was destroying his opponents instead of winning decisions his division would quickly be called weak.
PS I just looked at Rich Franklin's record before he lost to Silva, 22 wins 1 nc 1 loss (to The Dragon Machida) so I think he is very comparable to Hughes, but again he lost in such devastating fashion (twice) that its easy to dismiss him, but hey, he went up to 205 and beat the legend that is Chuck Liddell (sure Liddell was past his prime, but so was Ace)
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01-23-2013, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Uvall Damn you Chael, you....... you trendsetter, you...... | Haha! I guess it works. I just didn't want to see Weidman go that route.
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01-23-2013, 09:11 AM
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Good post, rep when able.
MW, WW, and HW are equal in terms talent imo. It's simply that Dominant champs make the devisions look incrediably weak. Just look at the MW devision before GSP got injured, everyone was talking about how empty it was, how GSP should move up to 185, and Nick Diaz was the only person left who was credible. Since he's been injured, all the sudden the division is stacked with Condit, Ellenberger, Story, Rory, Eric Silva, Hendricks, koscheck,and Fitch. Those people had been there for a while, the spotlight just shined brighter on them because GSP was gone.
With the merging of Strikeforce MW division, now there's Rockhold, Jacare, Kennedy, Hector (bellator), Weidman, Okami, Bisping, Stan, belcher, Vitor, and Munoz.
Fact is, it's an amazing time to be a MMA fan, I think it's about time the UfC has a "tournament" like strikeforce did. A clear path for somebody to be the #1 contender, since that's really all the Strikeforce tourney was. They should have tournament style matchmaking for all devisions. A clear ranking system.
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01-23-2013, 10:00 AM
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What an idiot Waaaaahman is.
Crybaby Chris's best 2 wins.
Maia - one of the fighters Anderson destroyed without taking one punch. One of Anderson's weak opponents.
Munoz - Claim to fame is beating Leben, yet another fighter who Anderson beat without taking one punch. And oh, Maia.
I'm begging Chris to put his career on the line and stop trying to Chael Sonnen his way to a title fight that he has not earned, because other than his career being on the line, he has nothing to offer Anderson's resume. Anderson has stopped enough hype trains in his career, one more would do nothing for him. He's got a couple wins over a couple mid-level fighters that wouldn't touch Anderson.
Anderson has taken shits that could beat Chrissy Weidman.
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01-23-2013, 10:49 AM
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And who the hell was Weidman fought??? Who is Weidman?
Who has Anderson fought?? Hendo, Belfort, Sonnen, Forrest Griffin, Okami, Franklin, Maia.
Who has Weidman fought? Maia, Munoz. Who else?? Alessio Sakara? LOL
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01-23-2013, 11:08 AM
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| These Weidman words sound veeeery familiar.
Its true, Anderson has fought the weakest fighters out of any division except for HW and FW. I bet he welcomes a Belfort rematch because its a perfect matchup for him but he will duck wrestlers nonstop.
For those saying who has Weidman fought, he is the CHALLENGER and not considered by most to be the best ever. It is in UFC's policy to hype someone up and not give him top 5 competition before getting a title shot because most of the time the new hyped guy would lose then you would almost never have someone different to fight for the belt. You really want to see Fitch fight GSP 4 times? Its the way the UFC works.
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01-23-2013, 11:11 AM
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I'm shocked that most people are in agreement here. In an Anderson silva thread none the less.
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01-23-2013, 11:17 AM
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Weidman is just playing the game. He wants a shot at the title, and the UFC has shown a willingness to give shots to people who talk a lot. I don't really agree with what he says, but then again I don't make the match-ups.
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