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01-24-2013, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 obvious BS. Sonnen is already scheduled to fight Jones. Now way the UFC would ever schedule one fight before the next, especially with a fight of that magnitude and how much they value Jones and Sonnen. | Quote:
Originally Posted by CtGreat Bullshit, Sonnen signed the contract to fight Jones months ago. You can't agree to fight somebody else in the meantime while still under contract to fight somebody else. | What are you guys talking about? He just said that he thought Vitor challenged him, he accepted (obviously referring to his twitter response), and then Vitor's people reached out and clarified that they only meant they wanted his shot at Jones' title.
He never implied that he was offered a contract, signed it, and then Belfort refused to sign it or anything like that.
Holy shit, you guys are really nitpicking at reasons to hate the guy now, lol.
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01-24-2013, 10:42 AM
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Seriously I do not get how anyone can be a fan of Chael Sonnen. He is the biggest clown ever!!
Aside of that, he is a cheater, he talks his way to title shots, he is not exciting to watch, his fake Troll persona is not funny, what reason there is to be his fan??
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01-24-2013, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat Bullshit, Sonnen signed the contract to fight Jones months ago. You can't agree to fight somebody else in the meantime while still under contract to fight somebody else. | sure he can man knowing that the UFC wont let it happen he can say whatever he wants
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01-24-2013, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer This would be a good fight, Id pick Vitor. Too bad this most likely wont happen for a very long time if ever... if sonnen wins (haha) he would be 205 champ with a long list of contenders at 205 and if he loses well no point in Vitor fighting a guy coming off back to back loses. | Even if you assume that Sonnen is gonna lose, it's not like Vitor is worlds above him.
Sonnen last 5: W's- Bisping and Stann L's-Silva 2xs, Bones (assumed [not by me]) Vitor last 5: W's- Akiyama, Bisping, and Rumble L's- Silva and Bones (not assumed)
Under the logic that common wins and losses cancel out, it is basically a loss to Silva and a victory over Stann versus a win over Akiyama and a win over Rumble. Me personally, I would rather have almost beating Anderson Silva plus the Stann win over Vitor's 2 victories. Obviously as far as the rankings go 2-0 trumps 1-1, but my point is that Vitor isn't far ahead of Sonnen even if Sonnen loses to Bones.
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01-24-2013, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K Seriously I do not get how anyone can be a fan of Chael Sonnen. He is the biggest clown ever!!
Aside of that, he is a cheater, he talks his way to title shots, he is not exciting to watch, his fake Troll persona is not funny, what reason there is to be his fan?? | He is funny, he always brings it, and he never turns down a fight.
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01-24-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by The Donosaur Even if you assume that Sonnen is gonna lose, it's not like Vitor is worlds above him.
Sonnen last 5: W's- Bisping and Stann L's-Silva 2xs, Bones (assumed [not by me]) Vitor last 5: W's- Akiyama, Bisping, and Rumble L's- Silva and Bones (not assumed)
Under the logic that common wins and losses cancel out, it is basically a loss to Silva and a victory over Stann versus a win over Akiyama and a win over Rumble. Me personally, I would rather have almost beating Anderson Silva plus the Stann win over Vitor's 2 victories. Obviously as far as the rankings go 2-0 trumps 1-1, but my point is that Vitor isn't far ahead of Sonnen even if Sonnen loses to Bones. | I agree their records are pretty similar, and I would actually really like to see this fight. I was just saying its unfortunate that it probably wont happen for a while because the UFC would probably not pair up Vitor coming off a win with Sonnen coming off 2 losses (again, if he beats JBJ, there is no way Vitor would be the first one getting that title shot)
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01-24-2013, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer I agree their records are pretty similar, and I would actually really like to see this fight. I was just saying its unfortunate that it probably wont happen for a while because the UFC would probably not pair up Vitor coming off a win with Sonnen coming off 2 losses (again, if he beats JBJ, there is no way Vitor would be the first one getting that title shot) | Yeah I agree with you, but they probably should. At least feed somebody to Sonnen, and then give him Belfort.
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01-24-2013, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K Seriously I do not get how anyone can be a fan of Chael Sonnen. He is the biggest clown ever!!
Aside of that, he is a cheater, he talks his way to title shots, he is not exciting to watch, his fake Troll persona is not funny, what reason there is to be his fan?? | TITLE SHOTS? Plural? like more than one? please show me the other title shot he "talked his way into"
Not exciting to watch - Marquart/AS 1 and 2/Stann all exciting fights, you just dont like sonnen.
what resaon is there to be his fan - He actually steps up to the plate and fights. He backs up everything he says in the Octagon and the same cant be said about many of the other "fighters" in the UFC
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01-24-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Donosaur He is funny, he always brings it, and he never turns down a fight. | 1.- To each his own. To me, very very few things that he has said were funny. Most of them are not.
2.- Basically he lays on his opponents. He does some weak GnP but he is not at all the most exciting guy to watch.
3.- Of course he does not turn down fights because he gets offered fights that he does not deserve at all.
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01-24-2013, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasha K 1.- To each his own. To me, very very few things that he has said were funny. Most of them are not.
2.- Basically he lays on his opponents. He does some weak GnP but he is not at all the most exciting guy to watch.
3.- Of course he does not turn down fights because he gets offered fights that he does not deserve at all. | once again with the plural, what other fights has Chael been offered that he "does not deserve at all" (even though he clearly deserves this fight since no one else stepped up and took the fight to begin with.)
What people fail to realize is that refusing to fight someone is just as bad as taking the fight and losing to someone.
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