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[1inthechamber]

This really pisses me off. We have a really fucking talented dude who's about top 3 in his division willing to go and fight the best in the ufc, unlike others who never tested themselves. But thanks to this fucking douche Rebney, it looks like we will be waiting a long ass time for him to cross over.

If he's forced to resign, I say wait for the very first thing they breach on the contract and sue the shit outta them.

[trustkill]

If I heard correctly, Bellator's "matching" rights end after a full year. Not sure if that's a year from his last fight or what.

[Fe1]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

How do you figure? They have been putting on fights for about 4 years or so. Give them a chance. The tourney format is awesome. They are different and have a place in this sport.

Up until recently, they haven't really done anything to cross Dana and the UFC. They have been flying under the radar. They have now shown that they are going to be competition for Zuffa and if history has taught us anything it's that other promotions don't successfully compete with the UFC.

As for them being "different," I don't necessarily think that it's a good thing. I mean for God sake, their champions don't defend their titles! Let's take a look at that for a moment shall we?

Cole Conrad: Held the title for 699 days, defended the title once
Christian M'Pumbu: Champion for 615 days, he is yet to defend the title.
Hector Lombard: Held the title 1040 days. One Defense.
Ben Askren: Unfortunately, because he's boring as all hell, he is the most active champion. 827 days, three defenses.
Michael Chandler: It took him 425 days to make his first title defense last week.
Pat Curran: 325 days into his reign, he finally defends his title.
Eduardo Dantas: 287 days without a defense. Although, he was allowed to fight outside of Bellator. It didn't go well.

Letting their champions fight in non title fights has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Look at M'Pumbu. He lost to Wiuff and now as far as I'm concerned that title means nothing. Having champions fight people who don't deserve title shots, doesn't make sense. It's a waste of peoples time.

Now they're on Spike. Great. How are their ratings? I for one never get tired of watching ten hours of 1000 ways to die reruns. Followed by, 8 hours of Deadliest Warrior reruns. Now that Bellator is on there they are the only decent thing on that station. Sure, they say that they'll be able to put on a ppv, but I don't see that ever happening. They just don't have the big name recognition to get the buys to compete with UFC.

[Y2JUBAE]

Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU

How do you figure? They have been putting on fights for about 4 years or so. Give them a chance. The tourney format is awesome. They are different and have a place in this sport.

Because they have been doing it unopposed. I know Rebney knows it, they basically fired a big shot at UFC by doing this and UFC will probably make them pay now. Just like they did with Strikeforce.

What I really don't get is that they can't match the UFC's offer. They admit that. So I don't see how that doesn't win the case for Eddie.

[YukonJordan]

This is great news for MMA fans and MMA fighters(probably not Alvarez though). By standing their ground Bellator has shown it's willing to keep it's assets. Otherwise Zuffa would just pick off every fighter worth anything and let Bellator die like Elite XC, Pride and Strikeforce. That would mean less places for fighters to earn money, more fighters in the UFC and even watered down cards.

It's unfortunate for Alvarez but if the UFC really wanted him that badly they would have just removed the PPV clause and tacted on that projected income as guaranteed money. Surely they could have priced Bellator out of this negotiation.

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Originally Posted by YukonJordan

It's unfortunate for Alvarez but if the UFC really wanted him that badly they would have just removed the PPV clause and tacted on that projected income as guaranteed money. Surely they could have priced Bellator out of this negotiation.

You know, with Viacom behind Bellator now I think that the UFC was trying to make an offer that wasn't just something that Bellator could monetarily match(which I think they may have gone ahead and done), but by including aspects such as PPV and exposure, which aren't feasible components for BFC to match at this moment, ZUFFA was looking to get Bellator in a spot where they couldn't match certain aspects.

Still, Eddie fulfilled out his contract and probably should've sat out like Vinny(who was terrified that M1 was going to match) to avoid all of this, but in order to get himself the most money, I suppse he wanted to bid them up.

The main issue I have with Bellator here, is that they had Eddie under contract for two more fights after the Chandler war and they chose not to book the rematch preferring to allow the Gono fight and uphold the tourney format, which is what they're now scrambling to say they'll forgo....

I understand and appreciate alot of people's "stand up to ZUFFA" motif here, but if you go back and read about Bjorn's interactions with Tyson Nam, Jonathan Brookins and Sugar Ray Leonard among others, he's known to pull some real boner moves that are really petty.

[MIZjitsZOU]

Originally Posted by Fe1

As for them being "different," I don't necessarily think that it's a good thing. I mean for God sake, their champions don't defend their titles! Let's take a look at that for a moment shall we?

Cole Conrad: Held the title for 699 days, defended the title once
Christian M'Pumbu: Champion for 615 days, he is yet to defend the title.
Hector Lombard: Held the title 1040 days. One Defense.
Ben Askren: Unfortunately, because he's boring as all hell, he is the most active champion. 827 days, three defenses.
Michael Chandler: It took him 425 days to make his first title defense last week.
Pat Curran: 325 days into his reign, he finally defends his title.
Eduardo Dantas: 287 days without a defense. Although, he was allowed to fight outside of Bellator. It didn't go well.

Letting their champions fight in non title fights has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Look at M'Pumbu. He lost to Wiuff and now as far as I'm concerned that title means nothing. Having champions fight people who don't deserve title shots, doesn't make sense. It's a waste of peoples time.

First, I love the sig. It rocks out big time.

Second, I guess we just disagree. I like the tourney format. I wouldn't like it in the UFC, but I like it in Bellator. To me it is like the CFl. If you really like football then you watch it when the NFL isn't on. You don't think its better, but you like it, b/c it is different and it is still football.

Third, I think with more tournaments they have hopefully solved the champion not fighting thing. This will also fix the non-title fights. I mean they already have Askren's next opponent, and in a month we will know Chandler's next opponent.

I like it. It gives me more mma which is what I want. I hope Eddie gets out of his contract and comes to the UFC. I want to see him fight there. Plus, I think Chandler beats him anyway, but I would love to see that rematch (and yes I am a homer).

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

I think that the tourney format has somewhat played out with the long-term, semi-to-developed BFC fighters(Baker, Hess, Good, Hawn, Lima, Pitbull, Weedman, Strauss, Sandro), who are alot of the time going around the bend in their third tourney bracket run and at some point, I think they should make the tourney exclusive to newer names and book fights for the more established fighters and create some sort of "title eliminator" format for them, with an established fighter bout that could consistently keep title contenders ready for the champion while the tourney goes on.