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[H0SS]

I'm glad Dodson ate that knee. I've always hated that hand-on-the-ground rule. Hopefully that will teach him not to play that game anymore.

[1inthechamber]

I'm neutral on this. The way Johnson was over Dodson's back made it impossible for him to see him put his hand down but the knee also did some damage to Dodson.

[Fe1]

I just rewatched it and I can't stop laughing at Big John. "Look at me with your bad eye. Am I ugly?" LOL.

Seriously though, I can see how Johnson could have missed that his hand was down. I think the ref made the right call by giving him a warning. He was a lot more careful with those knees in the 5th round.

[joeodd2]

I agree with Dana (dear God help me!) I think Dodson won 3-2, but I supposed I can see how some may have given Johnson the same margin. but 4-1 is ridiculous.....no way Johnson one 4 out of 5 rounds. The Illegal knee could have easily been a point because of a prior foul. some refs will take a point if their was a prior foul, even if it's not the same foul. Either way Dodson would not have won the fight, the best he would have gotten was a draw, but at least he would get an immediate title shot. IDK, that division may not be that deep yet, so it could still happen. I think he can beat Johnson and surprised alot of people who thought he'd be out classed all night. That just didn't happen....

[Y2JUBAE]

I think illegal blows should be an automatic deduction. No more warnings.

Here's why. A fighter can poke the eye, illegal knee, illegal nut shot whatever and harm the other fighter, change the fight from there on out KNOWING that it's just a warning. That opens the door for intentional illegal blows that a fighter can PRETEND is an accident, not saying that's what Johnson did, but I'm sure it happens.

If it is an accident, it should still be a point deduction to level the playing field. Sure, it may not have been that fighter's fault, but it also isn't the other fighter's fault that he will now be handicapped somewhat during the rest of the fight.

[d-low]

Originally Posted by Fe1

I don't see how having a hand on the ground and throwing a knee is illegal, but having that hand off the ground and being in the same position is legal. It's a stupid fucking rule. I think the ref made the right call by giving a warning.

I disagree, try looking at it this way: When your in that position and your hand is on the mat, you are not expecting to get hit with a knee. But your opponent throws one anyways. When you are taking a shot and not expecting it, that is when you are most vulnerable. Notice how when many fighters that get knocked out ask what happened? Because they didnt see the shot coming, in other words they didn't expect to get hit with whatever knocked them out. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that knee was brutal, and what made it more brutal was the fact that Dodson didn't see it coming. A point definitely should have been deducted.

[H0SS]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

I think illegal blows should be an automatic deduction. No more warnings.

Here's why. A fighter can poke the eye, illegal knee, illegal nut shot whatever and harm the other fighter, change the fight from there on out KNOWING that it's just a warning. That opens the door for intentional illegal blows that a fighter can PRETEND is an accident, not saying that's what Johnson did, but I'm sure it happens.

If it is an accident, it should still be a point deduction to level the playing field. Sure, it may not have been that fighter's fault, but it also isn't the other fighter's fault that he will now be handicapped somewhat during the rest of the fight.

Sorry but I have to disagree. If every illegal blow was an automatic point deduction, you'd have fighters faking nut shots, eye pokes, etc just to draw the foul. The last thing we want is for MMA to end up like soccer where players are throwing themselves down on purpose like little divas.

I think the fouls should be dealt with on a case by case basis. If it looks intentional, go ahead and penalize the guy. For example, if the guy has a history of cup-"cheiking" the other guy (hint hint), go ahead and deduct a point without warning.

This is a very fast-paced, dangerous sport. Illegal blows are an unfortunate part of MMA that are sometimes inevitable.

[Mr.Gummy]

I am totally serious when I say this:

If you knee/kick someone in the nuts, the penalty will be a tennis ball shot from an automatic pitching machine at your groin while the other fighter is recovering. You will not get time to recover before the fight resumes.

If you poke someone in the eye, you will have to wear an eyepatch for the rest of the fight AND take a shot to the groin from the pitching machine mentioned above.

[lwbrewer]

Like the rule or not last night it was in effect, and any sport you learn the rules and run the edge.
This is a great spot for instant replay as the knee'd fighter should be given time to recover. Take it out of the in cage ref have somebody back at the monitors. They could see within seconds the degree of the foul.

[Rise]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

I think illegal blows should be an automatic deduction. No more warnings.

Here's why. A fighter can poke the eye, illegal knee, illegal nut shot whatever and harm the other fighter, change the fight from there on out KNOWING that it's just a warning. That opens the door for intentional illegal blows that a fighter can PRETEND is an accident, not saying that's what Johnson did, but I'm sure it happens.

If it is an accident, it should still be a point deduction to level the playing field. Sure, it may not have been that fighter's fault, but it also isn't the other fighter's fault that he will now be handicapped somewhat during the rest of the fight.

There's a couple problems with doing it that way. Sometimes those accidental blows are partially because of what the person that got hit with them was doing . Groin shots from inside kicks where the person was throwing a strike of their own are not uncommon same for eye pokes off of takedown or clinch attempts.

Also if you go that route it opens the door for fighters to start taking advantage of it by faking or embellishing strikes to get ahead on the score cards.

I do think they need to be more stringent in penalizing some this stuff and less warnings given, but referee discretion is warranted.