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[Y2JUBAE]

What is Weidman so afraid of by taking one fight before getting a shot? Wasn't he scheduled to fight Tim and not Anderson? So he has a fight scheduled with Tim and he gets injured and somehow that injury translates into he should get a title shot when he gets back?

Is Chris just afraid he can't beat Vitor or Luke? He just comes off as a spoiled brat to me. Like he deserves some type of special treatment. This isn't the Chris Weidman show, it's the UFC and the UFC is there to make money. Chris doesn't have a name, most common fans have no idea who he is. But if he beat a Vitor, everyone would know who he is. If he gets a fight with Anderson and loses before beating someone like Vitor, it's gonna be the same shit people complain about some of Anderson's previous fights with Maia (ironically, one of the guys that some how makes Chris legit).

Anderson is in a lose lose situation on this. I'd hate to see someone get a title shot from fucking crying about it. At least talk some good shit.

[H0SS]

Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE

What is Weidman so afraid of by taking one fight before getting a shot? Wasn't he scheduled to fight Tim and not Anderson? So he has a fight scheduled with Tim and he gets injured and somehow that injury translates into he should get a title shot when he gets back?

Is Chris just afraid he can't beat Vitor or Luke? He just comes off as a spoiled brat to me. Like he deserves some type of special treatment. This isn't the Chris Weidman show, it's the UFC and the UFC is there to make money. Chris doesn't have a name, most common fans have no idea who he is. But if he beat a Vitor, everyone would know who he is. If he gets a fight with Anderson and loses before beating someone like Vitor, it's gonna be the same shit people complain about some of Anderson's previous fights with Maia (ironically, one of the guys that some how makes Chris legit).

Anderson is in a lose lose situation on this. I'd hate to see someone get a title shot from fucking crying about it. At least talk some good shit.

C'mon man, that argument is just plain stupid. Why is being the top contender not enough? Even if Anderson signs a fight agreement tomorrow, the MW title won't have been defended for almost a year by the time he fights. You want him to sit out longer while Weidman (or whoever) can impress you in another fight so that you can get more excited for the title-match?

What the fuck ever happened to champions taking on the best available competition? Why has it become ok for champions to duck the top contenders and cherry-pick the opponents for their title defenses?

At this point I blame the contingent of ignorant fans as much as the fighters and match-makers....

[Bork_Lazer]

Originally Posted by AnchorPunch

Meh, there are Silva nuthuggers and there are Silva haters both on this board. But you said:



And I was disagreeing with that. When it comes to picking challengers, there's some disagreement on the board as to whether it's good business or inappropriate behavior. But I don't see many people saying Silva shouln't but excusing other champs for doing it, like you suggest. I think the forums are pretty consistent on this one.

Oh for sure man. Couldnt agree with you more, most people here don't like it when Champs call out their next fights. But GSP got a slap on the wrist, I dont remember too many people saying he was running scared of Hendricks though. Also agree with you that top fighters have their fare share of nutthuggers and haters but again GSP haters tend to say he is boring and doesnt finish fights... Silva haters go as far as saying saying he hasnt beaten any relevant fighters... I think a good example is, jones beating Bader is a solid win, gsp beating Hardy is a solid win, Silva beating Maia = Maia is a can that doesnt belong in the UFC...

[W.Silva>C.Norris]

Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer

Oh for sure man. Couldnt agree with you more, most people here don't like it when Champs call out their next fights. But GSP got a slap on the wrist, I dont remember too many people saying he was running scared of Hendricks though. Also agree with you that top fighters have their fare share of nutthuggers and haters but again GSP haters tend to say he is boring and doesnt finish fights... Silva haters go as far as saying saying he hasnt beaten any relevant fighters... I think a good example is, jones beating Bader is a solid win, gsp beating Hardy is a solid win, Silva beating Maia = Maia is a can that doesnt belong in the UFC...

I said it. Just to play devils advocate though, GSP and his management team havent come out and said they have no intention of fighting Hendricks though, much like Silva has with his boogeyman, Weidman.

I used to be a big fan of both silva and GSP, but given their recent actions/decisions, Ive lost any interest in either fighter.

[AnchorPunch]

Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer

Oh for sure man. Couldnt agree with you more, most people here don't like it when Champs call out their next fights. But GSP got a slap on the wrist, I dont remember too many people saying he was running scared of Hendricks though. Also agree with you that top fighters have their fare share of nutthuggers and haters but again GSP haters tend to say he is boring and doesnt finish fights... Silva haters go as far as saying saying he hasnt beaten any relevant fighters... I think a good example is, jones beating Bader is a solid win, gsp beating Hardy is a solid win, Silva beating Maia = Maia is a can that doesnt belong in the UFC...

I think we agree on this stuff. And anyone who says Maia is a can deserves to be Rick-Story'd-head-cranked

Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris

I said it. Just to play devils advocate though, GSP and his management team havent come out and said they have no intention of fighting Hendricks though, much like Silva has with his boogeyman, Weidman.

I used to be a big fan of both silva and GSP, but given their recent actions/decisions, Ive lost any interest in either fighter.

I was really upset to see GSP do that too. Not sure I've lost interest in him fighting, but I'm definitely less interested in supporting/watching/paying for the GSP/Diaz fight. And I was really making sure that I paid for PPVs for the most part...

Though, honestly, the more this Silva/Weidman fight goes on, the less I care. I still think fighters should have to take a non-title fight first when coming back from injury and a long layoff; and the more this goes on the more I just think it'll be disappointing, followed by a lot of excuses about ring rust.

Too much drama for my tastes.

[H0SS]

Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer

Oh for sure man. Couldnt agree with you more, most people here don't like it when Champs call out their next fights. But GSP got a slap on the wrist, I dont remember too many people saying he was running scared of Hendricks though. Also agree with you that top fighters have their fare share of nutthuggers and haters but again GSP haters tend to say he is boring and doesnt finish fights... Silva haters go as far as saying saying he hasnt beaten any relevant fighters... I think a good example is, jones beating Bader is a solid win, gsp beating Hardy is a solid win, Silva beating Maia = Maia is a can that doesnt belong in the UFC...

A lot of people voiced their disappointment in GSP for choosing Diaz over Hendricks. It might not have seemed as harsh as Silva hate, but that's because GSP has a history of carrying himself/treating his opponents with the utmost respect. Silva, on the other hand, has tried to avoid numerous fights due to his opponents "not deserving" a title-shot...

And GSP's division is most certainly tougher than Silva's, but having Hardy on his resume has always been criticized as well.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

in before the shit strom that will be this thread.........

Back on topic; im not 100% sold on weidman. Give him vitor or rockhold in a true #1 contender match and if he wins he gets AS.

Why the fuck we gotta wait for the fighters to recover from that #1 matchup.

Weidman has beat far more impressive opponents than Rockhold.

Belfort is on a one fight win streak with a win over a perpetual top 10 who has never beat a top 5 opponent.

It's the WWE fans that want Rockhold vs. Silva.

[W.Silva>C.Norris]

Originally Posted by H0SS

A lot of people voiced their disappointment in GSP for choosing Diaz over Hendricks. It might not have seemed as harsh as Silva hate, but that's because GSP has a history of carrying himself/treating his opponents with the utmost respect. Silva, on the other hand, has tried to avoid numerous fights due to his opponents "not deserving" a title-shot...

And GSP's division is most certainly tougher than Silva's, but having Hardy on his resume has always been criticized as well.

Hardy won his title shot at least.. much the same as gonzaga, and thales leites did....

[Bork_Lazer]

Originally Posted by H0SS

And GSP's division is most certainly tougher than Silva's

How so? I made a case in another thread not too long ago as to why it isn't, just wondering what makes you say that it is?

[Y2JUBAE]

Originally Posted by H0SS

C'mon man, that argument is just plain stupid. Why is being the top contender not enough? Even if Anderson signs a fight agreement tomorrow, the MW title won't have been defended for almost a year by the time he fights. You want him to sit out longer while Weidman (or whoever) can impress you in another fight so that you can get more excited for the title-match?

What the fuck ever happened to champions taking on the best available competition? Why has it become ok for champions to duck the top contenders and cherry-pick the opponents for their title defenses?

At this point I blame the contingent of ignorant fans as much as the fighters and match-makers....

I can't see him being the best because he beat Munoz or Maia. Vitor could have done that on his lunch break. If he can beat Vitor, he's the man.