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02-02-2013, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kalebarker  Agreed. Silva is an awful matchup for Shogun. Shogun has always struggled against fighters that are lengthy and use their range well. He was forced to take down Overeem and Diabate because he was getting lit up on the feet. He had nothing for Jones' range. | Agree...
He has good MT with power in his hands, kicks... I just dont see how people see it translating well against Anderson. Anderson picks him apart.
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02-02-2013, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kimbo> Rampage Agree...
He has good MT with power in his hands, kicks... I just dont see how people see it translating well against Anderson. Anderson picks him apart. | I can understand the Shogun beating Silva thought train a couple years ago. Since then Silva's TDD has looked great against okami and sonnen, where as Shogun wrestling looks less effective than before. Also, Silva's chin was criminally underated for a very long time. He has took a big shot from Hendo in the first round and walked right through it. Even shogun isn't putting Silva to sleep. I don't see how Shogun wins, but I would love to see him try.
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02-02-2013, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kalebarker I can understand the Shogun beating Silva thought train a couple years ago. Since then Silva's TDD has looked great against okami and sonnen, where as Shogun wrestling looks less effective than before. Also, Silva's chin was criminally underated for a very long time. He has took a big shot from Hendo in the first round and walked right through it. Even shogun isn't putting Silva to sleep. I don't see how Shogun wins, but I would love to see him try. | Agree. it would be a great fight...
We may even see Anderson bring back his leg kicks... He was known for being one of the best leg kickers in the game... but seemed to go away from them, probably based on not wanting to get taken down... or wanting to finish the fight early, rather than looking to accumulate damage.
Aldo reminds me of earlier Anderson with the leg kicks.
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02-02-2013, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kalebarker I can understand the Shogun beating Silva thought train a couple years ago. Since then Silva's TDD has looked great against okami and sonnen, where as Shogun wrestling looks less effective than before. Also, Silva's chin was criminally underated for a very long time. He has took a big shot from Hendo in the first round and walked right through it. Even shogun isn't putting Silva to sleep. I don't see how Shogun wins, but I would love to see him try. | Normally I agree with your posts but I don't see any evidence to say that Anderson's TDD has improved any. Okami only attempted one TD and it was pretty half hearted at best. Quote:
Originally Posted by TBEAR Andereson is 38 years old, why the hell can people not leave him alone? Guys his prime is over or very close to it. He has nothing to prove. His one of the--if not the best--ever.
Look at it guys, he does not duck tough fights--after seeing tht list you are crazy to think he ducks anyone.
Now I will be the first to say Ed fuckin Soaresducks and talks shit becayse he does not want his cash cow to get beat. BUT Anderson, IMO, is not scared to fight anyone.
The only thing you can blame on Anderson is the fact that he has not fired Ed yet. | No... just no. Pointing out who Anderson has actually fought doesn't show the fighters he was avoiding. Hendo/Marquardt were clearly 1-2 and Anderson wouldn't go anywhere near either of them. He had to be talked into the Sonnen 2 fight. He's ducking Weidman now. How many breaks has he taken recently? How many times has he opted to waste his one fight a year on a LHW?
You can blame Soares all you want but he is Anderson's mouthpiece. He represents Anderson and unless Anderson comes out and refutes Soares' statements you can take those at face value as coming from Anderson. While I don't believe Anderson is truly scared of anybody he certainly acts like a coward a lot.
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02-02-2013, 05:54 AM
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No... just no. Pointing out who Anderson has actually fought doesn't show the fighters he was avoiding. Hendo/Marquardt were clearly 1-2 and Anderson wouldn't go anywhere near either of them. He had to be talked into the Sonnen 2 fight. He's ducking Weidman now. How many breaks has he taken recently? How many times has he opted to waste his one fight a year on a LHW?
You can blame Soares all you want but he is Anderson's mouthpiece. He represents Anderson and unless Anderson comes out and refutes Soares' statements you can take those at face value as coming from Anderson. While I don't believe Anderson is truly scared of anybody he certainly acts like a coward a lot.
| Firsts off, Anderson nor Ed makes the fights for the UFC. If Dana and Jow wanted the fight bad enough they could do something about it.
Second did Anderson not finish both Hendo and Marquardt? They way I remeber it he beat both and finished them.
Breaks? did he not just fight on short notice to save a card? A ominate champ gets perls..OR DO YOU THINK EVERYONE SHOULD FIGHT 5 TIMES A YEAR. Plus like I said earlier he is 38 YEARS OLD
Now for Soares, If I am not mistakin he represents almost every Blackhouse fighter. I am not really sure the deal between Anderson and Ed, but ED is always the one talking not Anderson. Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonJordan he certainly acts like a coward a lot. | and this has to be the dumbest thing to say about a guy who FIGHTS for a living
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02-02-2013, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by YukonJordan Normally I agree with your posts but I don't see any evidence to say that Anderson's TDD has improved any. Okami only attempted one TD and it was pretty half hearted at best. | Get your eyes checked and rewatch the 2nd fight with Sonnen, the fight with Okami, and the fight with Bonnar. Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonJordan No... just no. Pointing out who Anderson has actually fought doesn't show the fighters he was avoiding. Hendo/Marquardt were clearly 1-2 and Anderson wouldn't go anywhere near either of them. He had to be talked into the Sonnen 2 fight. He's ducking Weidman now. How many breaks has he taken recently? How many times has he opted to waste his one fight a year on a LHW? | He beat Hendo and Marquardt. Weidman isn't ready to fight, he's injured. When has he actually turned a fight down? He may have negotiated fights he liked more, but never turns fights down. Also, he's beaten every single top 5 fighter at MW that has ever come up. Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonJordan You can blame Soares all you want but he is Anderson's mouthpiece. He represents Anderson and unless Anderson comes out and refutes Soares' statements you can take those at face value as coming from Anderson. While I don't believe Anderson is truly scared of anybody he certainly acts like a coward a lot. | Keyboard warrior bullshit. The guy has beaten all the top fighters put in front of him. He's made a living out of fighting the best fighters in the world. If he's as scared as you think he is, he's an incredibly brave person to sack up and step in there and fight time and again for the past 15 or so years.
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02-02-2013, 08:18 AM
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Silva is a good fighter but I don't see him having the same success at lhw like he has at mw. Too many great wrestlers at lhw. As for Shogun and Silva, if he came in with a plan sort of like the Machida fights, it'd be a lot closer than ppl think imho. (Im referring to him doing his whole career at lhw, not a run at it now) He couldve definitely make a run at the title tho.
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02-02-2013, 12:12 PM
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Anderson at LHW is my mma dream
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02-02-2013, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE Anderson at LHW is my mma dream | Me too. All new fights and questions without all the drama of negotiating new comers.
Rashad, Shogun, Goose, Glover, Hendo with (more) cardio, and Jones... Lots of really fun fights. Jones being the only one I could see him potentially losing to, but fun fights nonetheless.
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02-02-2013, 01:07 PM
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Also, Silva's chin was criminally underated for a very long time. He has took a big shot from Hendo in the first round and walked right through it. Even shogun isn't putting Silva to sleep
| How many times did pillowfists Sonnen drop him? Don't tell me THAT was the rib injury.
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