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02-03-2013, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Donosaur  Hamill would probably accept the fight at least. | Quote: |
theres never been a situation where iv been with Anderson Silva where hes said "I will absolutely not fight this guy"
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02-03-2013, 01:08 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer What if Silva was willing to go down in weight or GSP was willing to go up in weight, would you rather see the GSP-Silva fight then?
I have to admit I don't understand how you can be a fan of the sport and not want to see those 2 go at it at a catchweight. I have to imagine that would be a more dangerous fight to both of them, then the 2 fights you listed above. Both of them have been # 1 and 2 in the p4p ranking for years now and they are only one division apart. I'm not trying to be a dick, I literally don't understand the reasons to be opposed to that fight?
Not directed at you, but I don't know why so many people talk about Weidman smothering Silva to death. Silva was smothered by a wrestler one time in his UFC career, in a fight he allegedly wanted to win by submission (per the movie like water). | If the interest in the super fight was mutual, I'd be interested in seeing it but I don't see the upside in it for Georges. He doesn't care about being considered the "greatest". He already makes a boatload of money off of each of his fights. And honestly after seeing him matched next to Shields and Condit, I just don't see him moving up in weight. He's got a welterweight frame. Georges has a lot more to lose than gain, so I don't see it happening.
I never was against Weidman getting the shot after the Munoz knock out, just thought a fight or two to season him before the test of Anderson was in his best interest. When he had to drop out of the Boetsch fight I thought for sure it would set him back but through the process of elimination he's pretty much all that's left standing.
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02-03-2013, 01:27 PM
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Get to work hyping Weidman up. It is clear that he is the #1 contender for the Middleweight belt. To that end, I am glad Rashad lost. It would have been extremely lame is Evans leapfrogged Weidman without a single fight at Middleweight.
Anderson is using the UFC's greed to avoid fighting Chris Weidman. Why? The risk/reward ratio is not in Silva's favor. Weidman poses too much of a risk to Silva for the reward he represents. Weidman is not well-known and thus not as huge a payday via PPV cuts, something that the UFC can EASILY fix with a stellar UFC Countdown that takes a peek into who Weidman is.
Benson Henderson had the problem that noone (casuals) knew who he really was but in the lead up to his fight with Frank Edgar, his countdown rallied a new group of fans after getting to know him.
What I am saying is, is that the UFC hype machine can build Weidman up, but it has not done so because it is looking for an already established brand to fight Anderson.
GSP won't fight Anderson. Anderson won't fight Jones. Rashad Evans lost. Bisping lost.
Looks like it's Weidman's turn.
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02-03-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimbo> Rampage -Dana White | Dana never lies. Even if wasn't a lie, Anderson doesn't have to flat out refuse, because they want to keep him happy, all he has to do is give his "opinion" (opinion is in quotations because I think Anderson does refuse but Dana doesn't want to look weak or for Anderson to look bad since Dana constantly praises Anderson).
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02-03-2013, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniggles Get to work hyping Weidman up. It is clear that he is the #1 contender for the Middleweight belt. To that end, I am glad Rashad lost. It would have been extremely lame is Evans leapfrogged Weidman without a single fight at Middleweight.
Anderson is using the UFC's greed to avoid fighting Chris Weidman. Why? The risk/reward ratio is not in Silva's favor. Weidman poses too much of a risk to Silva for the reward he represents. Weidman is not well-known and thus not as huge a payday via PPV cuts, something that the UFC can EASILY fix with a stellar UFC Countdown that takes a peek into who Weidman is.
Benson Henderson had the problem that noone (casuals) knew who he really was but in the lead up to his fight with Frank Edgar, his countdown rallied a new group of fans after getting to know him.
What I am saying is, is that the UFC hype machine can build Weidman up, but it has not done so because it is looking for an already established brand to fight Anderson.
GSP won't fight Anderson. Anderson won't fight Jones. Rashad Evans lost. Bisping lost.
Looks like it's Weidman's turn. | The UFC has grown extremely lazy when it comes to the promotional department. They seem to be on a trend of picking the easy way out when all it takes to get guys like Hendricks and Weidman some credibility with the casual fan is to put their promotional machine behind them. Keep the highlights pumping across the fox platforms and they'll build these guys into stars. They just need to get off their asses and do it.
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02-03-2013, 05:18 PM
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win Mark Munoz UFC on Fuel TV 4 - Munoz vs. Weidman
Jul / 11 / 2012 KO (Elbow and Punches)
Josh Rosenthal 2 1:37
win Demian Maia UFC on Fox 2 - Evans vs. Davis
Jan / 28 / 2012 Decision (Unanimous)
Herb Dean 3 5:00
win Tom Lawlor UFC 139 - Shogun vs. Henderson
Nov / 19 / 2011 Technical Submission (Brabo Choke)
Dan Stell 1 2:07
win Jesse Bongfeldt UFC 131 - Dos Santos vs. Carwin
Jun / 11 / 2011 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
Jerin Valel 1 4:54
win Alessio Sakara UFC Live 3 - Sanchez vs. Kampmann
Mar / 03 / 2011 Decision (Unanimous)
Gary Copeland 3 5:00
Ok so 5 UFC victories, with wins over Damian Maia and Mark Munoz. Maia is now a welterweight. And the other 3 wins, probably not even top ten. Yet he's the "clear" #1 contender? He's not fought any other big names in the Middleweight division. How do you promote a guy who's greatest claim to fame is beating Mark Munoz? The UFC is about PPV numbers, how do you sell this fight as opposed to matching Silva up against more well known and exciting fighters? I'd like to hear some presentations from those who thinks Weidman should get the next shot, what would you say to Dana and Joe Silva to convince them to give it Weidman?
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02-03-2013, 05:37 PM
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what would you say to Dana and Joe Silva to convince them to give it Weidman?
| Stop letting Silva pick and choose his fights, and make him fight the most worthy contender, or give up his belt.
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02-03-2013, 08:51 PM
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Wow, that's a powerful arguement......but what do you say when dana asks you how much money would a weidman fight make vs Silva fighting Cung Le in China? or even a super fight against Jon Jones? How do you convince Dana and the UFC that it's better to loose money on a PPV than make money? This I have to hear...... 
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"I don't call the fighting in my films 'violent', I call it 'action'. An action film borders between fantasy and reality. If I were to be completely realistic in my films, you would call me a violent, bloody man. I would simply destroy my opponent by tearing his guts out. I wouldn't do it so artistically." ~Bruce Lee | |
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02-03-2013, 09:07 PM
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I'm hearing more and more people agree with the fact that Weidman should get this shot by process of elimination, which really means he didn't really earn it. So, the way I see it, if he gets it that's great, but if he doesn't, he is not being robbed. If anything Boetsch should have gotten the shot, since Weidnman pulled out of their fight which was going to determine who would get the title shot, but he didnt, so why should Weidman get the shot then? Again he can get it, but that does not mean he must get it.
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02-03-2013, 09:15 PM
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Goddamn, what took so long?
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