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[dbader08]

It wasn't exactly the cleanest ass waxing job, Sakara.

You said it would look like Aldo-Faber which wasn't too accurate imo. Aldo's leg kicks seemed to have very little effect on Frankie, which (the leg kicks) was the story of the Faber fight. Guy had to be carried to his corner after one of the rounds...and Frankie actually won rounds...actually completed takedowns and landed some good strikes.

[H0SS]

Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer

I didn't see his fight with Aldo as controversial, I saw Aldo win those first 3 rounds, and honestly that fifth was vary close, the only one I would give to Frankie for sure was the fourth. So I'm wondering what everyone else thinks, but what does Frankie need to do to stop going to (close) decisions everytime? I think he might have to try and use his wrestling a little more and decisively win some rounds on the ground, either that or throw his punches with more intensity, I feel like most of his strikes go out to make contact and not to KO. I think Frankie is a bad ass, he is like a real life Rocky, so I hate to say it, but it almost seemed like he was trying to outpoint Aldo in this fight, where Aldo was trying to actually stop him.

Frankie landed some damn good shoots on Aldo in the later rounds. I don't think he is trying to point fight. I believe he knows these guys can hurt him, so he wants to get in and out before he gets tagged.

He has shown killer instinct when he is able to create an opportunity. I mean, almost half of his wins are by stoppage. But his last seven fights have been title fights against the very best. And not to mention he is always undersized.

Btw, watching a Cruz vs Edgar fight would give me a goddamn epileptic seizure, lol. They'd need Mighty Mouse to ref that shit just so he can stay out of the way and keep up with their movements.

[Bork_Lazer]

Originally Posted by H0SS

Frankie landed some damn good shoots on Aldo in the later rounds. I don't think he is trying to point fight. I believe he knows these guys can hurt him, so he wants to get in and out before he gets tagged.

He has shown killer instinct when he is able to create an opportunity. I mean, almost half of his wins are by stoppage. But his last seven fights have been title fights against the very best. And not to mention he is always undersized.

Btw, watching a Cruz vs Edgar fight would give me a goddamn epileptic seizure, lol. They'd need Mighty Mouse to ref that shit just so he can stay out of the way and keep up with their movements.

I hear ya man, in not trying to knock on Edgar, I think he is a beast, just wondering what he can do different. A fight with Cruz would be wicked too, but I kind of want to see him in 2 non-title fights now, maybe get a finish and then get right back in the title picture.

Oh and LOL at Mighty Mouse as a ref.

[dbader08]

I think Frankie could take it to Cruz if he really can make 135 and have a good cut while doing it. Frankie has the footwork to rival Cruz's but Cruz starts to fade a slight bit in the 4th and 5th rounds due to his overly frenetic footowrk while Frankie usually has plenty left in the tank. Even after a tough fight and after taking some wicked leg kicks, he still usually has alot of spring in his step at the end of the fight. Frankie has more power behind his strikes as well imo but still it's a question mark as to how the cut would go, especially since he's only had one fight at 145.

BTW, nice call on Overeem-Silva, Bork. I totally counted you out in your first sig bet.

[SimpleJack]

COOL IT CHILDREN......

Don't take the bait....anyone.

On subject, Frankie was a champion and is a damn fine fighter. He has ZERO to be ashamed of in his career. As a matter of fact, he truly captivated fans with his performances vs. Penn and Maynard.

What doesn't suck, getting paid for doing something you love.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by dbader08

It wasn't exactly the cleanest ass waxing job, Sakara.

You said it would look like Aldo-Faber which wasn't too accurate imo. Aldo's leg kicks seemed to have very little effect on Frankie, which (the leg kicks) was the story of the Faber fight. Guy had to be carried to his corner after one of the rounds...and Frankie actually won rounds...actually completed takedowns and landed some good strikes.

Have little effect? He dropped him with one. Oh and there's this.

With All Respect to Frankie Edgar, Jose Aldo Says Urijah Faber Was His Toughest Fight (UFC 156 Video) | MMAWeekly.com

[dbader08]

He dropped him with one because it was very hard first of all and it hit him right in the area where his leg folds. But did Frankie lose any spring in his step? No.

And Lol at that video.

Aldo outlanded Faber 77 to 20 in sig. strikes and easily stuffed all of Faber's takedowns. Aldo outlanded Frankie 76-60 and Frankie had 2 takedowns including a slam. Frankie also didn't have to be carried to his corner in between any of the rounds.

99% of the people who watched both of those fights will tell you that Aldo-Frankie was easily more competitive.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Have little effect? He dropped him with one. Oh and there's this.

With All Respect to Frankie Edgar, Jose Aldo Says Urijah Faber Was His Toughest Fight (UFC 156 Video) | MMAWeekly.com

I'm not saying the leg kicks weren't beast, but I am calling bullshit on the Faber thing. Aldo has alot of respect for Faber so he is lying and saying he was his toughest fight, Anderson did the same thing with Rich Franklin. Frankie Edgar is Jose Aldos biggest test up to this point.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Either way, Frankie lost yet again. 49-46 two judges had it. Aldo abandoned leg kicks after the second. Not sure why he did that. Edgar had no answer for the kicks. Maybe Aldo was afraid of the takedown still.

But Aldo himself said Faber was tougher, argue with him.

[Kimbo> Rampage]

I have nothing against Frankie....

but I absolutely hate his style... Its no coincidence that his fights keep turning out like this... He is a point fighter period...

His opponents are forced to "play the game" If they get too aggressive and blow some of their gas... Frankie is very durable and has an endless tank, he will overcome them if they dont finish him...

Another thing I hate about the "point fighter" is that a strike shouldn't always equal a strike. if one of the guy clearly hits harder and does more damage.

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Either way, Frankie lost yet again. 49-46 two judges had it. Aldo abandoned leg kicks after the second. Not sure why he did that. Edgar had no answer for the kicks. Maybe Aldo was afraid of the takedown still.

But Aldo himself said Faber was tougher, argue with him.

Based on the fight, Frankie clearly was a tougher matchup for him. Landed more, actually took a round or 2... But its Aldo's opinion, so you cant argue with that.

Faber took a beating, Im not sure if Aldo was referring to that.

Frankie caught one of Aldo's kicks, landed a right and got a TD... Aldo's kicks were doing a lot of damage, but their was always the risk of the counter. He said as much in the PFPC.