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02-08-2013, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nbm02ss He's beaten some solid fighters, including starching Fitch and Kampmann, so I dunno why people are hating on the guy when he speaks his mind about being passed over for the title shot. | I agree he is the number one contender. Its obvious. he is a stud in the ring. What bothers me is that he takes a statement from GSP that was "polically correct" and call GSP an idiot for thinking so. GSP is a smart guy and knows hendricks is more deserving. what's he gonna say...Hendricks is the most deserving but i want the diaz "money fight" first. Gsp has never ducked anybody, ever, in his weight class. Hendricks is getting a little to full of himself.
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02-08-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre It isn't like Hendricks isn't going to get a shot, he'll get it next, he's got dibs. I personally don't get why everybody is so concerned about Hendricks being passed over, but there isn't the same sentiment and outrage for Lamas, who has made an equally valid claim as a #1 contender and is being passed over blatantly because a bigger named fighter has become availible at 145.....
| I'm asking because I'm not sure. Was Lamas ever told that one of his fights was for a shot at the title or that he deserved the title shot? I'm pretty sure Hendricks was told so. That might be where the difference is.
I think people have expressed a general concern about the UFC's entire way of giving out title shots right now.
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02-08-2013, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre It isn't like Hendricks isn't going to get a shot, he'll get it next, he's got dibs. I personally don't get why everybody is so concerned about Hendricks being passed over, but there isn't the same sentiment and outrage for Lamas, who has made an equally valid claim as a #1 contender and is being passed over blatantly because a bigger named fighter has become availible at 145.....
GSP wants Diaz because of personal aspirations, after years of Nick being regarded as the best WW challenger he hadn't faced, on a very lesser scale than the BJ superfight. I see this about GSP's legacy as the greatest WW of all time and to be honest, he hasn't ever had a "vanity fight" in all of his years as the top dog at WW like say, Anderson has and I think he's reserved the right to call out one specific fighter who he wants to take on. | It's a fair question, but Lamas wasn't called the #1 contender or next for a title shot. Also, Hendricks may not be next, he now has to get through Ellenberger. Not a hugely hard test, but certainly an extra hurdle that wasn't there before GSP asked for Diaz.
My question is: Since Lamas tweeted about being overlooked for the title shot, where are all the kids calling him a crybaby and saying he's acting entitled?
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02-08-2013, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishX(aka bornbear) I'm asking because I'm not sure. Was Lamas ever told that one of his fights was for a shot at the title or that he deserved the title shot? I'm pretty sure Hendricks was told so. That might be where the difference is.
I think people have expressed a general concern about the UFC's entire way of giving out title shots right now. | From what I can recall, I think it was more or less inferred that the winner of Koch/Lamas would get next, depending on the outcome of Edgar/Aldo(say, if it was a draw or really close calling for a rematch). I found this article and there are a bunch others like it: Ricardo Lamas not happy about lost UFC featherweight title shot - Bloody Elbow
For my money, soundly beating two announced #1 contenders back-to-back(plus top contender in Swanson) and getting passed over for a title shot over a fighter who has never fought at the weightclass before, is just as bad as Hendricks' situation, if not moreso considering how emphatic his three straight wins against top FW contenders were and think it's an interesting oversight that people are up in arms about Hendricks, but not Lamas.
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02-08-2013, 01:26 PM
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I think Hendricks has more impressive wins than Lamas...
Plus, Lamas has been knocked out twice. Hendricks has only lost via narrow decision. Knowing that someone has been knocked out by Danny Castillo and Alcantara, definitely makes you think twice before matching them up with Aldo. Whereas everybody knows Hendricks has dynamite in his hands, and we all saw what Serra did to GSP. Hendricks did get slightly outwrestled by Story...but barely. But I guess it's not easy finding the most capable guys in the world when we're talking about Aldo and GSP...
Plus, Pettis has been looking beastly lately. And as someone that doesn't look that big at 155, it seems it wouldn't be too hard of a cut to make 145. I don't think many people would take Lamas over Pettis if they were to fight. He's definitely very good on the ground but I haven't seen much out of him on the feet to make me believe he can be that competitive at all. Aldo is very hard to take down.
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02-08-2013, 02:00 PM
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I think the main reason GSP wants Diaz is because he dislikes him, so much.
If Hendricks wins his next fight I don't see how he can be denied a title shot.
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02-08-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron Triangle I think the main reason GSP wants Diaz is because he dislikes him, so much. When Hendricks won his last fight I don't see how he can be denied a title shot. | fixed.
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02-08-2013, 03:05 PM
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No one is saying Hendricks doesnt deserve his shot...
GSP is the champion and has been on top of the sport for years... Let him get a fight he wants... Its not like Diaz isnt anywhere near a title shot. He is only behind Hendricks imo... He was on a huge streak before his close/controversial loss. We dont have to see things as black and white, W's and L's...
Hendricks has a chance to beat another top WW. I know its not for the title and he probably isnt going to make as much for this fight.. but a win over Ellenburger is huge... there is a lot to gain for his career.
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02-08-2013, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimbo> Rampage No one is saying Hendricks doesnt deserve his shot...
GSP is the champion and has been on top of the sport for years... Let him get a fight he wants... Its not like Diaz isnt anywhere near a title shot. He is only behind Hendricks imo... He was on a huge streak before his "close/controversial loss". We dont have to see things as black and white, W's and L's...
Hendricks has a chance to beat another top WW. I know its not for the title and he probably isnt going to make as much for this fight.. but a win over Ellenburger is huge... there is a lot to gain for his career. |
Umm what was "Close" or even "Controversial" about the Carlos Condit vs Nick Diaz fight? I seen that fight and from my seat Carlos made a clown out of Diaz..
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02-08-2013, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny Neustra Umm what was "Close" or even "Controversial" about the Carlos Condit vs Nick Diaz fight? I seen that fight and from my seat Carlos made a clown out of Diaz.. | I had Carlos winning, 3-2... pretty clear cut in my book... but me or you dont decide if it was controversial or not... others see it differently.
Carlos Clowned him? Now that is something I didnt see.
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