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[CtGreat]

What did Rampage do to get banned?

Also, I would say that Kim K (mainly her mom) are brilliant PR/Marketing people. Thousands of rich girls make sex tapes, very few have been able to turn the notoriety into a multimillion dollar industry/brand and turn all of their siblings/family into millionaires. Brilliance is defined as "excellence or distinction; conspicuous talent", her ability make the most out of her assets was brilliant; I think the sex tape "scandal" was staged, and since then she has found a way to make millions by getting millions of people to watch her do mundane shit.

As far as Sonnen being brilliant, I will say he is clever, but not brilliant; we shall see what he is able to do with his career.

My issue with TRT is that its inclusion doesn't account for experience older fighters have; which is the tradoff nature makes between the old and the young, so I see it as older fighters getting an unfair advantage. In addition, it is ripe for abuse since fighters can have abnormally high levels throughout training camp and then ween off it so they are at normal levels by fight time.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by CtGreat

What did Rampage do to get banned?

Besides being the dumbest poster ever?

He threatened to have some sort of sexual relations with Riv's 2 year old daughter.

So...yeah.

[BonesKnows]

everyone that calls chael a liar, cheater, terrible person and this that and the other needs to take a second and look themselves in the mirror. Have you ever lied, cheated, been a terrible person at any point in your life? Bet you have. Now should we hold that against you for the rest of your life? of course not, so why with sonnen?

[Sakara=Excitement]

I eat TRT for breakfast.

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

everyone that calls chael a liar, cheater, terrible person and this that and the other needs to take a second and look themselves in the mirror. Have you ever lied, cheated, been a terrible person at any point in your life? Bet you have. Now should we hold that against you for the rest of your life? of course not, so why with sonnen?

Well I've never committed mortgage fraud. I've never snitched on somebody to the feds. I've never taken an illegal substance to gain an unfair advantage over a co-worker. I've never gone on a nationally syndicated radio program and disrespected an entire country.

But hey, I've never had the opportunity to do those things either. So maybe I'm just a hypocrite.

[Cat--Smasher]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

I eat TRT for breakfast.

I bet it is no where as good as my Honey Nut Cheerios.

[SimpleJack]

Are you joking or do you want a serious answer here?

The guy refused to talk about it then addressed it in his book by minimizing and playing like he didn't understand:

It was a deal I barely understood. It involved a technicality I couldn't have identified even if I suspected it was illegal...

Bullshit. No one who obtains their Real Estate license doesn't understand that writing FAKE HOME UPGRADES to a mortgage deal USING THEIR OWN FAMILY for the company completing the work is illegal. POINT PERIOD. It's fraud. Am I supposed to "forgive" someone who minimizes their illegal act and expects everyone to believe he was somehow innocent and just didn't understand?

He lied about his TUE and continues the charade to date.

How many times has he tapped and then tried to say he didn't? Is that not a pattern of behavior that deserves scrutiny?

No, I'm not guilty of the things that he is and I will not simply forget and give him a "second chance." He's morally bankrupt and has shown a pattern of disregard for both the rules of his sport and the law.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by SimpleJack

Like I said, it's subjective but certainly applicable.

The words I (and many fans) associate with Chael Sonnen have more to do with a circus sideshow than a legitimate fighter (which he is). Most people just want him to shut up and to see him smashed. Brilliant PR (to me) would be boasting and then backing it up. His clearly plagiarized alter-ego isn't fresh, funny, or even entertaining. It probably appeals to the same people it did when it was used 30 years ago in rasslin' but I simply don't buy it.

What I find funny, is how SO MANY people will use Hitler to legitimize an argument on the internet. This isn't a shot against you but it's tired as well. Too many people will find themselves saying, "Yeah, well Hitler was popular in Germany too and look what happened there!" Come on, how good is Hitler's PR REALLY? He's dead, demonized, and the country he loved so much spent decades in ruin and oppression. Not what I would call "brilliant" PR.

Did you really use Godwin's Law against Chael?

Sad.

Chael is a brilliant ORATOR.

Will you settle with that?

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Besides being the dumbest poster ever?

He threatened to have some sort of sexual relations with Riv's 2 year old daughter.

So...yeah.

Learn how to read things within their context rather than hyperbolizing.

[SimpleJack]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Did you really use Godwin's Law against Chael?

Sad.

Chael is a brilliant ORATOR.

Will you settle with that?

Ducking right I did. It's the inevitability of teh webz.