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[BonesKnows]

Originally Posted by The Donosaur

And with this, I will never spend another penny on the UFC. I hope Bellator grow and eventually puts the ufc under.

Wow i never thought the UFC releasing the blanket that is Jon Fitch would affect you this much.......

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

With the addition of the other 3 UFC fights he has had his record would be 2-6 in the UFC but its hard to take those fights into consideration when they were all in 07.

why wouldn't you take them into consideration?

I also think the 3 FOTN's in the UFC play a role in it as well. Garica also has 8 total bonuses and a Fight of the Year under his belt, and yes i know Fitch won FOTN against Silva

In my opinon--for whatever that's worth--A FOTN against Silva trumps everything Garcia has ever done; based on the level of talent alone.

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[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer

Agreed! The UFC has been a detriment to the sport from day 1. As fans we can only imagine how big the sport would be today if it wasn't for the UFC holding it back all these years. Bellator on the other hand took a chance when MMA wasn't big, hell it took the chance before MMA was even legal in most states and made it into the sport it is today!

Rant over... I agree though, as fans we definitely need to question these, well questionable calls, and cutting Fitch is definitely a questionable call as he is without a doubt a top 10 WW. That being said, I'm not going to jump on the UFC hate train because of it.

The way I see it is if I was growing a flower, and I took it from a seed to a beautiful rose. I told everyone about how great my rose is, and I even cut down other nearby flowers so that they wouldn't take away from the beauty of my rose. Eventually started making bad decisions that looked good in the short term like painting certain british pedals that I like to make them look better than they were. I started cutting some of the stronger pedals that I didn't think looked spectacular. Some people would still think I was a good flower guy (I don't fucking know) because I grew the only living rose, but anyone who could look at it objectively would realize that I was only doing what I was doing to make myself happy, and eventually my rose would die.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by BonesKnows

Wow i never thought the UFC releasing the blanket that is Jon Fitch would affect you this much.......

Straw that broke the camels back. I may have even said this before, but I mean it this time. $55 a pop is alot of money to spend on something that is so frustrating.

[Kimbo> Rampage]

I bet he will make his way back to the UFC, sooner rather than later...

[initial_zen]

Originally Posted by mmawolverine

I feel for the guy but Fitch was never a UFC champion and i cant think of any former UFC champs that he beat either.

It's hard to beat former champs when gsp has held the belt for so long.. pretty much the only former champ at ww is hughes.

[Repenter]

the fitch hate is so tired and irrational. he's made a career stifling more intimidating, probably more talented guys by exploiting every weakness they have and making their game stop working. controlling killers like thiago alves and erick silva is a huge statement, and he's one of the best in the sport.

his firing raises concern for the direction of the sport. no amount of blanket jokes can veil that.

[MITCHELRIX78]

I find it interesting that no one has considered that dropping Fitch had to do with contractual issues in regards to money. I have no clue where he is at with his contract, but it is possible that he is demanding more money than he is worth at this point due to his recent performances. I don't see much issue with the guy as he continues to have solid performances even in his losing efforts. But I can't see him making the same money as someone like Hendricks. I think this is more of an effort to reduce overall salaries than anything else. In any sport, there are salary caps that result in some tough cuts. But I am certainly not naive enough to believe Dana isn't wearing a big fat smile somewhere right now as a result of it.

[mmawolverine]

Originally Posted by initial_zen

It's hard to beat former champs when gsp has held the belt for so long.. pretty much the only former champ at ww is hughes.

Very true, but Fitch has only himself to blame for failing against GSP and to an extent Penn, he never fought Hughes and Serra.
As far as recent title contenders he never fought Diaz, Condit, Koschek, Shields, or Hardy the only one was Alves and i give credit for a good win but its just one.
This "is" his fault and his shortcoming, he has lots of wins and a good ratio but against who?
Of his wins who are champs, former champs or former title challengers? Just Alves cant think of anyone else.
Now what about the best of the rest he never fought Kampmann, Lytle, Mcdonald, Ellenberger I guess we could give him some credit for beating Deigo but just one guy. He laid two very different eggs against Hendricks and Maia.

Originally Posted by Repenter

the fitch hate is so tired and irrational. he's made a career stifling more intimidating, probably more talented guys by exploiting every weakness they have and making their game stop working. controlling killers like thiago alves and erick silva is a huge statement, and he's one of the best in the sport.
his firing raises concern for the direction of the sport. no amount of blanket jokes can veil that.

If thats true that why didnt Fitch fight alot of these fighters mentioned above? what highly ranked fighters has he made a name off of by outclassing besides Alves. There are notable wins over guys outside the top ten like Paulo, Deigo, and E.Silva but nothing to brag about.

People Fitch is no longer that guy that never got a title shot and just kept winning, earlier today Luke Thomas of sbnation called him the third best ww of alltime and i wanted to rip him a new one, One mma fighter and one mma journalist both good very likeable hardworking guys and both generally very boring.

[Luc1an]

Originally Posted by The Donosaur

The way I see it is if I was growing a flower, and I took it from a seed to a beautiful rose. I told everyone about how great my rose is, and I even cut down other nearby flowers so that they wouldn't take away from the beauty of my rose. Eventually started making bad decisions that looked good in the short term like painting certain british pedals that I like to make them look better than they were. I started cutting some of the stronger pedals that I didn't think looked spectacular. Some people would still think I was a good flower guy (I don't fucking know) because I grew the only living rose, but anyone who could look at it objectively would realize that I was only doing what I was doing to make myself happy, and eventually my rose would die.

wow man, what ever you are on right now, please, can i have some =)

As far as Fitch goes, it sucks that this happened to him. I was never a fan and actually dreaded watching his fights for the most part. But i know he has skillz and this release is premature and unwarranted. Anyone should be able to see that. However, Dana does wtf ever Dana wants lol. And clearly he has an agenda with Fitch over something, not being his W-L ratio.