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Originally Posted by Mac
When you cut top rated fighters to keep fighters with less than .500 records, you don't just get rid of boring fighters. You also get rid of legitimacy.
If the UFC wants to be more about entertainment than competition then fine, just come out and say it instead of pretending you want to be a real sport.
UFC isn't a sport in the same vein as the NFL not being a sport.
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1st half of your post: yeah it would be great if all the top guys could compete together, but it doesn't have to be years from now. If the UFC was an actual sports organization and didn't cut "boring" taltented winners in favor of "exciting" suckwads, then the time could be now.
2nd half of your post: I couldn't disagree with you more. Finishing a fight does not mean you are greater than a guy who neutralized his opponents skill set through grappling.
It'll be years because the UFC is currently capitalizing on branding MMA. I don't agree with them branding UFC as MMA but it is what it is. Constant increase of ratings will bring MMA to be covered by major sports networks more comparatively to MLB, NFL etc. Once it reaches that status, hopefully they won't worry about a guy that keeps winning (high ranking), but doesn't draw people to a card; i.e. the people will tune in regardless like its Sunday football. It'd be great if we didn't have to Pay Per View for almost every fight.
MMA was born from fighting. It's not a wrestling match, grappling session, or fencing.
i beleive the ufc dropped the ball here. I believe that rule changes like the staulling rule and standing them up if a fighter takes his time with the lay n pray would be alot more productive. Right now fighters that just stand and bang have an advantage. that's just plain stupid. Fighters will be tentative to exploite a fighter that doesn defend takedowns well. so the ufc will change the sport to a toughman challenge. (slight exageration) You cut Fitch.....thats just plain stupid.
Bellator will do well. and when they do well enough cause a ppv buy loss for ufc..they will buy them. A monopoly is bad for mma unless there is a fighter union. laugh at me if you will but its true.
I do understand that its a business/sport....but i beleive its now more business than sport when they put entertainment above winning.
in Hockey, the NJ devils using the neutral zone trap won the stanley cup.an extremely boring team but effective..unbeatable. The nhl saw the problems and changed rules like the clutchiung and grabbing and teams learned to adjust better. teams just had to learn how to get by the trap. The UFc can learn from this. the stauling has to stop. the lay n pray ahs to stop. change rules to accomidate. i know this takes time....initiate this.
It'll be years because the UFC is currently capitalizing on branding MMA. I don't agree with them branding UFC as MMA but it is what it is. Constant increase of ratings will bring MMA to be covered by major sports networks more comparatively to MLB, NFL etc. Once it reaches that status, hopefully they won't worry about a guy that keeps winning (high ranking), but doesn't draw people to a card; i.e. the people will tune in regardless like its Sunday football. It'd be great if we didn't have to Pay Per View for almost every fight.
MMA was born from fighting. It's not a wrestling match, grappling session, or fencing.
MMA was born from mixing martial arts, as in using various martial arts to find a hole in your opponents fighting game. It is a wrestling match if your opponent can't stop a takedown. It is a bjj match if your guy can't stop a submission. It is a striking competition if the other fellow can't block a punch or a kick. It is not what you want it to be unless you are the guy fighting that has the better skill set.
i beleive the ufc dropped the ball here. I believe that rule changes like the staulling rule and standing them up if a fighter takes his time with the lay n pray would be alot more productive. Right now fighters that just stand and bang have an advantage. that's just plain stupid. Fighters will be tentative to exploite a fighter that doesn defend takedowns well. so the ufc will change the sport to a toughman challenge. (slight exageration) You cut Fitch.....thats just plain stupid.
Bellator will do well. and when they do well enough cause a ppv buy loss for ufc..they will buy them. A monopoly is bad for mma unless there is a fighter union. laugh at me if you will but its true.
I do understand that its a business/sport....but i beleive its now more business than sport when they put entertainment above winning.
in Hockey, the NJ devils using the neutral zone trap won the stanley cup.an extremely boring team but effective..unbeatable. The nhl saw the problems and changed rules like the clutchiung and grabbing and teams learned to adjust better. teams just had to learn how to get by the trap. The UFc can learn from this. the stauling has to stop. the lay n pray ahs to stop. change rules to accomidate. i know this takes time....initiate this.
I think the problem would eventually take care of itself as younger athletes learn that they need to be good at every martial art in order to succeed in mma. I have never thought that a boring fight was the fault of the "lay and pray" guy. I have always thought it was the fault of the guy who knew he was gonna face someone with good wrestling, but still got taken down at least 3 times.
MMA was born from mixing martial arts, as in using various martial arts to find a hole in your opponents fighting game. It is a wrestling match if your opponent can't stop a takedown. It is a bjj match if your guy can't stop a submission. It is a striking competition if the other fellow can't block a punch or a kick. It is not what you want it to be unless you are the guy fighting that has the better skill set.
Mixing Martial Arts as in beating up your're opponent to win the fight. Mixed as in a wrestler wrestles someone down and either pounds them into a TKO or grabs a submission. Mixing as in a BJJ practioner squeezes someone in a hold while they pound them with punches.
What freaking wrestler fights in MMA cause he wants pin a guy down for 3 rounds. He'd wrestle if he wanted to do that. I'd love to poll fighters as to why they got into it. I'm willing to bet that their vision of themselves is beating someone up - KO, Submission, TKO.
read only Kenny's and posting [sorry if repeating someone]
I can see there point as they just absorbed several fights from SF, but don't completely agree. You can put on exciting fights lose and stick around Pat Berry comes to mind, but other factors might of keep him around. Problem I see is fighters worthy of making a title run may risk it trying to be exciting over winning, but loss's at this time doesn't seem to hurt some people for title fights.lol. IMO reasons for this in order Money, show ref's and judges what they want, and they want to be a sport but like the entertainment style of picking fights better.
Maybe if Fitch talked like someone from the WWE none of this would matter. It seems to be working for another guy that always seems to dodge the blanket jab, in fact he's fighting for a title. Go figure.
Fitch is boring as fuck.
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