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[Sniggles]

Funny how Fitch's opponents didn't train for the inevitability of being taken down.

I guess that is Fitch's fault too.

Blame Fitch his opponent's lack of skill and for your pea-brained inability to appreciate how and why another is successful.

Originally Posted by Mac

When you cut top rated fighters to keep fighters with less than .500 records, you don't just get rid of boring fighters. You also get rid of legitimacy.
If the UFC wants to be more about entertainment than competition then fine, just come out and say it instead of pretending you want to be a real sport.

Been more interested in sports entertainment than about competition for years.

Brock Lesnar.

Record: 2-1.

Title shot.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Funny how Fitch's opponents didn't train for the inevitability of being taken down.

I guess that is Fitch's fault too.

Blame Fitch his opponent's lack of skill and for your pea-brained inability to appreciate how and why another is successful.



Been more interested in sports entertainment than about competition for years.

Brock Lesnar.

Record: 2-1.

Title shot.

So you did understand my point then? Good, I figured most people got it.

[Bork_Lazer]

(not about rather or not Fitch should have been cut!!!)

I am intrigued by the fact that so many people are jumping on to defend Fitch's style, yet so many people are criticizing Machida for his fight against Dan Henderson.

Machida has a very calculating and elusive stand up game, some times he finishes the fight sometimes he doesn't. He fought the same way against Bader and Henderson, he got one KO and one decision. It's not like he fought any different because it was Henderson.

Fitch on the other has not finished a fight since 2007 (thats 6 years) and I think its pretty undeniable that he goes in to the fight to win it on points. It is very rare for you to see him really attempt a sub or for him to do major damage on a ground and pound.

I'm trying not to hate on Fitch too much, but it's almost like he is taking advantage of a glitch on the system, he goes in knowing that if he can hold someone down for 15 minutes he will get the W, but the true point of the sport is to finish your opponent not neutralize them. That is why the ref gets to stand them up if they are not doing much, because if nothing but holding is happening then they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Not making the case that someone should be cut due to their style, that is not the point of my post at all. Just talking about how I feel about their styles.

[The Donosaur]

Originally Posted by Bork_Lazer

(not about rather or not Fitch should have been cut!!!)

I am intrigued by the fact that so many people are jumping on to defend Fitch's style, yet so many people are criticizing Machida for his fight against Dan Henderson.

Machida has a very calculating and elusive stand up game, some times he finishes the fight sometimes he doesn't. He fought the same way against Bader and Henderson, he got one KO and one decision. It's not like he fought any different because it was Henderson.

Fitch on the other has not finished a fight since 2007 (thats 6 years) and I think its pretty undeniable that he goes in to the fight to win it on points. It is very rare for you to see him really attempt a sub or for him to do major damage on a ground and pound.

I'm trying not to hate on Fitch too much, but it's almost like he is taking advantage of a glitch on the system, he goes in knowing that if he can hold someone down for 15 minutes he will get the W, but the true point of the sport is to finish your opponent not neutralize them. That is why the ref gets to stand them up if they are not doing much, because if nothing but holding is happening then they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Not making the case that someone should be cut due to their style, that is not the point of my post at all. Just talking about how I feel about their styles.

I've actually thought about this and while I was upset about Hendo losing, I have no problem with what Machida does. That being said the difference is that Machida isn't initiating any contact, and whether it's liked or not, the wrestler is the one on the offense. They may both be boring, but they are different. Like I said though I am fine with both.

[Bork_Lazer]

Originally Posted by The Donosaur

I've actually thought about this and while I was upset about Hendo losing, I have no problem with what Machida does. That being said the difference is that Machida isn't initiating any contact, and whether it's liked or not, the wrestler is the one on the offense. They may both be boring, but they are different. Like I said though I am fine with both.

Just to clarify, what I said above was not a jab at you personally, I was just speaking generally.

I do see the point you are making. I definitely agree with you in terms of a takedown, that is definitely an offensive move, however while on the ground, unless you are progressing towards a sub or ground in pound you are not being offensive.