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Fallon Fox fight. Just the short time you see her stand up I can feel like you can see a difference from most women's movement and speed.
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this is just wrong!! didnt some shit like this happen for some olympic hopeful a few years back?!
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I just find it kind of funny that a guy would turn into a girl to then become an MMA fighter, which is, well a pretty manly sport.
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I have recently had to come put publicly as a post operative transsexual woman. I would like my friends and fans to check out this article explaining this. There is also a documentary in the works on me and my participation in MMA. Please read the article and watch the video at the bottom.
Fallon Fox Comes Out as Trans Pro MMA Fighter - Outsports

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"For years I've known at some point it's very likely the shoe would drop," Fox told Outsports in a phone interview Tuesday. "Maybe someone would guess that I'm trans. Maybe they would know me from my life before I transitioned. I've been waiting for that phone call to happen. And Saturday night, it happened."

Fox was at dinner celebrating a victory when a call came through. It was from a reporter who asked probing questions that clearly lead to one conclusion: The reporter knew Fox's secret past. Within 48 hours she got a call from a former trainer who had been interviewed by the same reporter with the same questions. The secret of Fallon Fox was about to come out.

"These past six years, people have seen me as a woman, not a transsexual," she said. "People in the gym, people I train with, it's been great, it's been awesome. I'm just a woman to them. I don't want that to go away. It's unfortunate that it has to."

Born in the wrong body

Ten years ago, Fox told her parents that she felt like she was born in the wrong body. Her mother rejected the news. Her father told her she was actually a confused gay man. Fox insisted that she wasn't gay, and that she was mostly attracted to other women. Her father was unrelenting and put her in gay-conversion therapy. There she was treated by a gay-conversion therapist who tried to convince Fox that she was a gay man so that he could turn her into a straight man.

When the therapy sessions finally ended, Fox decided to start her sexual transition. She soon began hormone therapy that she has now been on for 10 years. Six years ago, she had gender reassignment surgery.

"For the longest time, my mother didn't want anything to do with me," Fox said. "I wasn't even allowed to come into her house or show up at her door. But as the years went on, they both started coming around a little bit."

That's taken a turn for the worse recently. Fox has not spoken to either of her parents in almost two years.

Shortly after her surgery, Fox took up MMA fighting. In the coming weeks and months she found a love for it. Over the last five years, it has become the reason she gets up in the morning. It is her life's passion.

"I get to train and hit on the bag and let some aggression out," Fox said. "And I love being out in front of the crowd when I compete. I love displaying my skill. All the hours of hard work and training, and you go out there and get to display what you've learned. At least when you lose, you know you tried your best. That fight experience is intoxicating."

She has also become a dominant fighter. In her last match, this past Saturday just hours before the phone call that precipitated her coming out, Fox used a knee to the face to drop her opponent, Ericka Newsome, in 39 seconds.

Fox said she was confident going into that fight because of her preparation. She had watched tape on Newsome and saw she had a weakness: "Erica throws wild punches and doesn't defend her face." Very early in the match, Fox saw what she had seen on the tape, and she took the opening. With a smart, technical move she delivered a knee to Newsome's face and ended the match.
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"This [dominance] is pretty common for someone who's an elite fighter with great technique," Fox said. "I've been training for this for five years. It's been all that's been on my mind. Constantly training. And it's just now starting to pay off."

Moving forward as an openly trans fighter

Fox knows some fans, and even some fighters, will try to dismiss her success because she was born in a male body.

"With a little more education," she said, "they might be able to see that they're wrong. I'm not the only one who's been dominant."

She argues that after 10 years of hormone therapy, and six years after gender-reassignment surgery, any advantage she had from being born in a male body have been erased. She is even recognized by the State of Illinois as female on her driver license.

"I'm technically, legally, physically and mentally female," she said. "Everything about me is female"

She has solid ground to stand on. Given her physical transition, she would be eligible to compete in the Olympic Games as she meets the International Olympic Committees' standards for trans athletes. If she were so inclined, she would be eligible to compete on the LPGA Tour and the WTA.

Still, SI.com is reporting that there is confusion around Fox's fighting license. She is currently scheduled for her next bout on April 20.

Her manager, Brett Atchley, has worked with Fox for just four months. He knew early on that Fox was transgender, and he said it doesn't matter to him one bit.

"She's gone through this process and it's been more of a challenge, and it's taken more of a commitment, than anyone she steps into the cage with," Atchley said. "It doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that she was strong enough and trusted me enough to tell me."

Fox has fears about the repercussions of coming out. For one, she worries that her life as simply a woman is going to transition. We hear this from athletes who fear coming out will put their athletic accomplishments behind their sexual orientation. Instead of being simply a female fighter, she fears she will now be labeled a "trans female fighter." Instead of entering the gym and walking down the street as a woman, she will now be a "trans woman."

"I consider myself a woman. I happen to fall into the transgender category, but I rather describe myself as a woman first, transsexual woman second."

Now that her distant past is coming into her present, Fox's biggest fear is that her fighting career may be taken away. Even if Championship Fighting Alliance stands by her, and it looks likely they will, she could have trouble finding a fighter who will get in the ring with her. While she is cautiously optimistic that the elite-level fighters will understand they are on an equal playing field, the fear of not fighting again weighs heavily on her mind.

"I love it so much. It's been my life these past five years. I could have given up on it a long time ago, but I can't let it go."

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Fallon Fox -- Transgender MMA Fighter Wants to Fight Chicks In UFC | TMZ.com

Check out the video they have of her 2nd fight where she manhandles "her" opponent before KO'ing her with a knee. It shows more than the first fight how 100% wrong this is. Hormones and surgeries can't change gender differences in muscle and fat %. Fallon has an easier cut than her opponents and has 26 years of development as a man to give her the strength advantage. I see someone getting hurt badly in one of Fallon's fights. As said before, MMA isn't like cycling or Canadian beauty pageants, it's a contact sport and is dangerous. Hopefully there isn't too much traction on this issue.
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I'm a lesbian stuck in a man's body.

Does that qualify me to fight in WMMA?
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I have no idea what an AC is going to do here. It'll be interesting.

I don't know about her personally, but when my wife and I were having our first kid, I found out that a surprisingly large amount of the population--something like 3 out of every 10000--is born as a clinical hermaphrodite, with vestigal sets of both genitalia. In these cases, the parents are asked what gender they want their baby to be, and the infant is given corrective surgery. Unsurprisingly, many of these individuals grow up into adults that seek gender reassignment.


That concept terrified me as a potential parent. I wouldn't want the responsibility of making that decision, and then getting it wrong. I am thankful that I a) didn't know about it before making the decision to try and have a kid; and b) that both our kids turned out perfect.





If she was born a man without any genital oddities like I've indicated above, I'd be far less inclined to have her fight as a woman. But if her case was one of the outlying issues, I dunno. I don't think anyone is qualified to say that she's a man or a woman.

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Fallon Fox -- Transgender MMA Fighter Wants to Fight Chicks In UFC | TMZ.com

Check out the video they have of her 2nd fight where she manhandles "her" opponent before KO'ing her with a knee. It shows more than the first fight how 100% wrong this is. Hormones and surgeries can't change gender differences in muscle and fat %. Fallon has an easier cut than her opponents and has 26 years of development as a man to give her the strength advantage. I see someone getting hurt badly in one of Fallon's fights. As said before, MMA isn't like cycling or Canadian beauty pageants, it's a contact sport and is dangerous. Hopefully there isn't too much traction on this issue.
In all fairness, if you watched that video you would have no clue which one the transgender was if you didn't know the outcome. That being said, she fucked that broad up. Wandy could grow out his hair, snag a pair of tits and get a dick-ectomy...doesn't make it a fair fight if he's thrown in there with some poor slob chick.
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my biggest problem with it is she waited till 2006 to get the surgery. Now i dont know much about this girl other than she had the surgery but i would assume that is post puberty and my question is this; does that plays a perminent roll in her body even though she had the surgery?

If anyone knows the answer to that please comment and let me know.


EDIT; and the part where she said that she was never asked if she was a trasgender so she never told any of the AC's...

Well of course they didnt ask, thats not a common question to ask a female let alone a female fighter. I think a lot of women would be offended if they were asked that by an AC.

There is a big issue in the NFL right now because at the draft combine GMs and scouts have been asking players weather or not they are gay and there are arguments going around weather or not they should be allowed to ask that to the players they interview.
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I just want to point out that there have been 19 posts in this thread about a transgendered fighter, and not a single Cyborg joke has been made. I don't know whether to be proud or disappointed in you fuckers...
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