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Dr. MMA 03-06-2013 05:56 PM

*MMANews FORUMS Rankings - March 6, 2013* - Comeback special
 
Apologies for the rankings falling off the map. It's back now. Enjoy.



Top 15 for the first 7 divisions; Top 10 for flyweight and women's p4p

Please note that the MMANews FORUMS rankings are separate from the MMANews website rankings.

Committee members: Dr. MMA, Rivethead*, KevoOnTheRadio, TBEAR, SWIFTboy
Alternate members: Mac ( Mac will fill in as an alternate member if one of the members of the committee is unavailable.)
Appointed to combine and matrix rankings from the committee members: CatSmasher**

*Rivethead was not available for rankings and we did not have an alternate in his place
**CatSmasher is also responsible for breaking any ties.

The following criteria were taken into account while generating the rankings:

A) Rankings are not based on opinion of fighter's skillset and potential but are based on evidence, i.e. fighter's opposition, track record, how dominant the wins were (dependent on opposition), and how dominant the losses were (dependent on opposition).

B) Recent victories hold more weight than historical, however, it doesn't negate it.

C) A fighter is ranked in the division where they have had their two most recent consecutive fights. This could be two actual fights or one actual fight and a scheduled/planned fight. For example, Frankie Edgar is a FW since he had one actual FW fight and plans to continue in the division.

D) If a fighter hasn't fought in 18 months or hasn't won a fight in 24 months, he will be removed from the top 10. If a fighter has not fought in 30 months or hasn't won a fight in 36 months, he will be removed from the top 15. For example, Carwin hasn't fought in 30 months, thus he is removed from the top 15.

E) If Fighter A wins a recent head-to-head matchup against Fighter B, it does not necessarily mean Fighter A moves ahead of fighter B. Head-to-head matchups are primarily considered when rankings are tied, similar to other sports like hockey or soccer.
e.g. If half of us thought that Overeem was #3 and the other half thought Werdum was #3, then we look to their most recent fight. Overeem won, so he moves up and Werdum moves down.

F) With regards to the holy trinities (e.g. Machida beat Rashad who beat Rampage who beat Machida), we evaluate the individual's rank and their opposition's at the time of the fight. More recent victories are weighed heavier as are more dominating victories.

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The MMANews Forums rankings as of March 6 2013 are:

Heavyweight
1 Cain Velasquez
2 Junior Dos Santos
3 Fabricio Werdum
4 Daniel Cormier
5 Antonio Silva
6 Alistair Overeem
7 Josh Barnett
8 Frank Mir
9 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
10 Roy Nelson
11 Travis Browne
12 Mark Hunt
13 Stefan Struve
14 Cheick Kongo
15 Brendan Schaub

Light Heavyweight
1 Jon Jones
2 Lyoto Machida
3 Dan Henderson
4 Alexander Gustafsson
5 Mauricio Rua
6 Glover Teixeira
7 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
8 Ryan Bader
9 Rashad Evans
10 Phil Davis
11 Quinton Jackson
12 Gegard Mousasi
13 Forrest Griffin
14 Rafael Cavalcante
15 James Te Huna

Middleweight
1 Anderson Silva
2 Chael Sonnen
3 Chris Weidman
4 Vitor Belfort
5 Yushin Okami
6 Mark Munoz
7 Luke Rockhold
8 Michael Bisping
9 Constantinos Philippou
10 Tim Boetsch
11 Ronald Souza
12 Brian Stann
13 Alan Belcher
14 Hector Lombard
15 Tim Kennedy

Welterweight
1 Georges St. Pierre
2 Johnny Hendricks
3 Carlos Condit
4 Nick Diaz
5 Martin Kampmann
6 Jake Ellenberger
7 Demian Maia
8 Jon Fitch
9 Rory MacDonald
10 Tarec Saffiedine
11 Josh Koscheck
12 Nate Marquardt
13 Dong Hyun Kim
14 Robbie Lawler
15 Ben Askren

Lightweight
1 Ben Henderson
2 Gilbert Melendez
3 Gray Maynard
4 Nate Diaz
5 Anthony Pettis
6 Jim Miller
7 Michael Chandler
8 Eddie Alvarez
9 Donald Cerrone
10 Joe Lauzon
11 Josh Thomson
12 TJ Grant
13 Khabib Nurmagomedov
14 Shinya Aoki
15 Pat Healy

Featherweight
1 Jose Aldo
2 Chad Mendes
3 Frankie Edgar
4 Ricardo Lamas
5 Pat Curran
6 Cub Swanson
7 Chan Sung Jung
8 Hatsu Hioki
9 Clay Guida
10 Denis Siver
11 Dustin Poirier
12 Marlon Sandro
13 Nik Lentz
14 Patricio Friere
15 Eric Koch

Bantamweight
1 Dominick Cruz
2 Renan Barao
3 Michael MacDonald
4 Urijah Faber
5 Bibiano Fernandes
6 Eddie Wineland
7 Brian Bowles
8 Brad Pickett
9 Scott Jorgensen
10 Raphael Assuncao
11 Tyson Nam
12 Eduardo Dantas
13 Marcos Galvao
14 Hacras Dias
15 Iuri Alcantara

Flyweight
1 Demetrious Johnson
2 Joseph Benavidez
3 Ian McCall
4 John Dodson
5 John Moraga
6 Jussier da Silva
7 John Lineker
8 Yasuhiro Urushitani
9 Chris Cariaso
10 Johnny Bedford

Women's p4p
1 Ronda Rousey
2 Cristiane Santos
3 Jessica Aguilar
4 Miesha Tate
5 Megumi Fujii
6 Sarah Kaufman
7 Marloes Coenen
8 Jessica Eye
9 Zoila Gurgel
10 Alexis Davis

The Donosaur 03-06-2013 06:00 PM

I like it.

H0SS 03-06-2013 06:08 PM

Can we go ahead and add "Hoss" to the men's P4P list? I just went 41-7, and then 40-12 in Hardcore Team Deathmatch!!! Running and Gunning. Only 3 kills via killstreak perks. I'm fucking awesome!!!! HOOOAH!

Spoon 03-06-2013 07:03 PM

Nice. First time I can't really find any major flaws, IMO. ;) Bravo everyone.

Sakara=Excitement 03-06-2013 07:16 PM

Sorry I stopped reading after I saw Frank Mir top 10

H0SS 03-06-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement (Post 1013226)
Sorry I stopped reading after I saw Frank Mir top 10

You don't think he belongs in the top 10? Why not? In the last 6 years, he has only lost three fights. All three losses were title fights against HW champions. And when he wins, he usually wins by stoppage (Roy Nelson has been his only decision victory since 2006).

I would actually consider it bullshit if he weren't included in the top 10 at HW right now.

hurt80 03-06-2013 07:30 PM

not bad at all

KevoOnTheRadio 03-06-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement (Post 1013226)
Sorry I stopped reading after I saw Frank Mir top 10

Honestly I would consider #7-11 softly rank, to borrow a phrase from Rivet Head. And to be fair, Frank Mir's only losses in seven years have been JDS, Shane Carwin, and Brock Lesnar. I'm no Frank Mir fanboy, but I'd say he has a better resume in that time frame than some of the fighters ranked higher than him, with wins over Roy Nelson, Cro Cop, and Big Nog x2. Hell if he beats Cormier, one could make an argument for him being in the #5 spot.

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by H0SS (Post 1013229)
You don't think he belongs in the top 10? Why not? In the last 6 years, he has only lost three fights. All three losses were title fights against HW champions. And when he wins, he usually wins by stoppage (Roy Nelson has been his only decision victory since 2006).

I would actually consider it bullshit if he weren't included in the top 10 at HW right now.


Yea, that too.

Cat--Smasher 03-06-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement (Post 1013226)
Sorry I stopped reading after I saw Frank Mir top 10

Mir ranked #5
http://www.ufc.com/rankings

Mir ranked #8
Rankings

Mir ranked #5
Official UFC rankings updated following UFC on Fuel TV 8 'Silva vs Stann' event - MMAmania.com

Mir ranked #7
Fight Matrix | Current MMA Rankings &raquo Heavyweight+

Mir ranked #7
MMA Heavyweight Rankings | FIGHT! Magazine

Mir ranked #7
Sherdog

Mir ranked #7
Heavyweight MMA Top 10 Rankings (over 205 pounds) | MMAWeekly.com

Mir ranked #5
UFC Champions - UFC Fighters - UFC Rankings

My question is, does any major site or forum have him not ranked in the top ten?

JPeezy 03-06-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 1013219)
Nice. First time I can't really find any major flaws, IMO. ;) Bravo everyone.

I was going to say the same, but Chael Sonnen at #2 for MW? Isn't he a full time LHW now?


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