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In business and capitalism, more money is the only desire.

Fuck you, pay me!
So, me being a dick aside, how much emphasis do you put on the government creating/enforcing/maintaining that system? I see money as the goal of business but government as the iron fist that let's them achieve that goal against the interest of the consumer.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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So, me being a dick aside, how much emphasis do you put on the government creating/enforcing/maintaining that system? I see money as the goal of business but government as the iron fist that let's them achieve that goal against the interest of the consumer.
I am not a well-educated man. I could not tell you about a solution.

I only perceive problems.

If anyone is interested in the systemic, malignant ills of the health care system is, there was a great article in TIME.
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Laws make situations worse.
Sometimes laws make things worse. Not always. Cute how you're getting worked up about what you see as grossly inept generalizations on my part, and then you respond with them yourself.

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Weed has no brain/consciousness so it doesnt have the ability or the responsibility you claim it does.
Where did I claim that? Were you high when you wrote this?

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People make stupid decisions, not weed.
Some people make stupid decisions. Some people make exponentially more stupid decisions under the influence of weed.

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They really dont. Ive seen first hand the city hospital turning down people who were dying because they had no money. This myth about free healthcare is bullshit, at least in dallas. You sit at parkland in a waiting room until you pay, leave, or die.
I'll try to dumb this down even further for you: If someone pays a premium for insurance, and never [or rarely] make use of the benefits, and I use the benefits more often, they are essentially paying for my medical bills. Prolonged use of weed causes a host of negative medical concerns. People making use of insurance to deal with those concerns increase the premium that everyone else pays.

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You know how we could have enough money to pay for everyones health care? Legalize drugs. blah blah blah...
Yeah. That would totally work.

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Why doesnt it happen?
Because while people in government are often idiots, they're at least not as stupid as you.

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Because people like you feel inanimate objects destroyed the world.
Wait...what?
The world is destroyed?

When did I say anything like this?

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Because some peole in power know its more profitable (for them) to have a never ending drug war and a broken healthcare system than it is to have people doing what they want their their bodies and minds for free.
Those bastards! Do you think they know about my tinfoil hat? I mean, it stops them from reading my thoughts, amirite? sooner or later they're going to figure it out. Do you think they'll disappear me, or just make it look like an accident?

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and so we should control them all under threat of slave labor until they do exactly what we say?
Wait, what now? Slaves in the where?

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Who with power ever takes responsibility for their actions? Name a president in the last 40 years...Wake up...no one takes full responsibility for their actions, ever.
Uhm...that's why I said it was a utopian ideal. sorry if that went past your head. google it, or run upstairs and ask your moms. might want to load up on the Axe Body Spray first so she doesn't suspect you're smoking the kind bud down there, she might cut off your cable privileges or take away your xbox again.

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Youve certainly judged everyone youve ever worked with...
It's one of the privileges of being awesome. Once they made me an interweb mod, it was like a whole new world of perks opened up...and the judgemental bastard thing is just the tip of the hipster iceberg.

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Old 03-16-2013, 10:16 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Prolonged use of weed causes a host of negative medical concerns
Cite sources. You are talking out your ass. Mj is a remarkably non-toxic substance. What you posted is hyperbole at best.

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Wait, what now? Slaves in the where?
In the prison. $3/day is slave labor. Oh, you didnt know?

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it, or run upstairs and ask your moms. might want to load up on the Axe Body Spray first so she doesn't suspect you're smoking the kind bud down there, she might cut off your cable privileges or take away your xbox again.
Google what? That was a fairly personal, off topic attack. You mad? Ive forgot more about mj than you will ever know, when it comes to this I dont need google or anyone's "moms", my "moms" would wonder why a career grower would be asking her mj questions, and if i were to use cologne it would be armani emporio, tuscany per uemo, or maybe dkny men...not axe. But i dont use cologne, kush, not kind, is my cologne.The perks of cultivating a decade strong business riding the back of prohibition vs the perks of being a judgmental bastard interweb mod...i wonder which is better?.... Excuse me while i roll another blunt and count my stacks.
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Cite sources. You are talking out your ass. Mj is a remarkably non-toxic substance. What you posted is hyperbole at best.
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Cannabis intoxication has been found to reduce the level of exercise which can be tolerated before the onset of angina[iv].to a greater extent than a high-nicotine tobacco cigarette[v]. Cardiovascular symptoms have been attributed to cannabis use, either alone (stroke)[vi], or in combination with alcohol and cocaine[vii].
Cardiovascular Effects of Cannabis | Medicinal Cannabis Information
That's from a pro-use site, son.

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Smoking marijuana regularly (a joint a day) can damage the cells in the bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms and decrease the ability of the immune cells in the lungs to fight off fungi, bacteria, and tumor cells. For patients with already weakened immune systems, this means an increase in the possibility of dangerous pulmonary infections, including pneumonia, which often proves fatal in AIDS patients.

Studies further suggest that marijuana is a general "immunosuppressant" whose degenerative influence extends beyond the respiratory system. Regular smoking has been shown to materially affect the overall ability of the smoker�s body to defend itself against infection by weakening various natural immune mechanisms,
THE MEDICAL DANGERS OF MARIJUANA USE
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Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the heart begins beating more rapidly and the blood pressure drops. Marijuana can cause the heart beat to increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, and can increase even more if other drugs are used at the same time.

Because of the lower blood pressure and higher heart rate, researchers found that users' risk for a heart attack is four times higher within the first hour after smoking marijuana, compared to their general risk of heart attack when not smoking.
The Health Effects of Marijuana

I can do this all day without even getting into government sites--that you'll immediately dismiss out of paranoid delusion--or neurological pathway development concerns.

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In the prison. $3/day is slave labor. Oh, you didnt know?
Exactly where am I advocating prison? Your efforts are actually a great illustration of my point.

I'm advocating education, to counter the bullshit unsubstantiated anecdotal nonsense geniuses like you spew about it being 100% harmless. I'm fine with people making their own choices, as long as they make informed choices. It would be great if they were old enough to make those choices when they're old enough to reduce risk, but I understand that's a utopian ideal as well.

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Google what? That was a fairly personal, off topic attack. You mad? Ive forgot more about mj than you will ever know
I'm sure you've forgotten a lot about weed.


I'm sure you've forgotten a lot...in general.

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.... Excuse me while i roll another blunt and count my stacks.
I'll give you the same recommendation I give all users. If you're smoking more than 3 times a month, switch to a vape.

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In business and capitalism, more money is the only desire.

Fuck you, pay me!
Wrong. Capitalism is inherently a voluntarily and MUTUAL agreement between a seller and a buyer. Corporatism is not Capitalism. As stated in other places, there's plenty of ethical and green companies who provide quality goods, so as usual, you're painting with a very broad brush.
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Rivethead thinks they're going to dissapear him.
It doesn't make sense. It is even good grammar.

Then again, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you.
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Rivethead thinks they're going to dissapear him.
It doesn't make sense. It is even good grammar.
disappear as a transitive verb:
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Then again, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you.
Good thing I'm the Gingerbread Man!

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