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[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by nole

name one UFC fighter who has went over and dominated in pride after a losing streak, please!!!!!

Wanderlei Silva,,Mark Coleman,Phil Baroni,Vitor Belfort.Not all of these guys dominated ,but have all have had some success.I don't think it was neceserilly a difference in competition in all cases ,but more of a fresh start and second chance.Sometimes great fighters can have a string of bad Luck and moving to a new company gives them a fresh start.the ladder works both ways.Guys that weren't doing great in Pride come to the UFC- Anderson Silva.It doesn't mean they're not good fighters.

[nole]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Wanderlei Silva,,Mark Coleman,Phil Baroni,Vitor Belfort.Not all of these guys dominated ,but have all have had some success.I don't think it was neceserilly a difference in competition in all cases ,but more of a fresh start and second chance.Sometimes great fighters can have a string of bad Luck and moving to a new company gives them a fresh start.the ladder works both ways.Guys that weren't doing great in Pride come to the UFC- Anderson Silva.It doesn't mean they're not good fighters.

none had losing streaks in UFC like he said. Vitor went to pride unbeaten in UFC, wand was in Ufc before he went to pride. coleman and baroni wouldnt have left if they didnt do roids and they werent even that sick in pride.

[Noob]

Originally Posted by nole

none had losing streaks in UFC like he said. Vitor went to pride unbeaten in UFC, wand was in Ufc before he went to pride. coleman and baroni wouldnt have left if they didnt do roids and they werent even that sick in pride.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Wanderlei lost his last fight in the UFC and then went on a 16 fight winning streak aside from the draw against Crocop. Coleman and Baroni leaving for 'roids as you say has nothing to do with their winning or losing streaks, though Coleman turned a 3 loss streak in the UFC to a 6 win streak in PRIDE after Takada, and Baroni had lost 3 in a row before leaving for pride where he won 3 of his first 4 fights. Belfort had some success in the UFC, went to PRIDE and after losing to Sakuraba won 4 straight fights in PRIDE and 6 of his seven between PRIDE and UFC.
KillerInstinct is right, there have been a number of fighters that have left the UFC and gone on to have success in PRIDE.

[BDunn]

Its not a joke look at this from the interview with him on the ufc website

“I’m on a roll right now,” he said. “I just beat the guy everybody said was unbeatable and not human. I proved the world wrong once again. It was the same against Ricco, and look what I did. I’m gonna knock him (Arlovski) out again, have the UFC feed me whatever they’ve got, and hopefully (UFC President) Dana (White) will get some Pride guys over here for me to fight.”

[prideFAN]

Originally Posted by Intellectual

this has to have been a joke...

on UFC 44-Undisputed

When Sylvia KO'd Gan McGee, Rogan said "Bring on Fedor Pride Champion..."

tell me he was fucking joking

then i wait and he says...

"i gotta think right now, Tim Sylvia has an advantage over him"

advantage over fedor???

Your right that is the funny shit thats ever came out of Rogan's mouth! Fedor would kill Sylvia!

[nole]

Originally Posted by Noob

Your argument doesn't make sense. Wanderlei lost his last fight in the UFC and then went on a 16 fight winning streak aside from the draw against Crocop. Coleman and Baroni leaving for 'roids as you say has nothing to do with their winning or losing streaks, though Coleman turned a 3 loss streak in the UFC to a 6 win streak in PRIDE after Takada, and Baroni had lost 3 in a row before leaving for pride where he won 3 of his first 4 fights. Belfort had some success in the UFC, went to PRIDE and after losing to Sakuraba won 4 straight fights in PRIDE and 6 of his seven between PRIDE and UFC.
KillerInstinct is right, there have been a number of fighters that have left the UFC and gone on to have success in PRIDE.

wand lost two fights in the UFC, but had fought and won in the UFC before he went to pride, not a losing streak. He had already been in pride before he lost to tito. He left UFC on a win and fought in pride 7, 8 and the 2000 grand prix before he lost to tito. vitor left UFC 5-1 and went to pride not a losing streak. They dont test for roids in pride ( coleman and baroni ) plus baroni beat 3 nobodys in pride, everyone of them had a sub par record. coleman is 9-4 in pride and was 6-3 in ufc, sounds almost the same to me. coleman won his first 6 fights in UFC. maybe you can say baroni and coleman whicn i think they left for roids (just my opinion) but not vitor or wand, no argument there.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by nole

wand lost two fights in the UFC, but had fought and won in the UFC before he went to pride, not a losing streak. He had already been in pride before he lost to tito. He left UFC on a win and fought in pride 7, 8 and the 2000 grand prix before he lost to tito. vitor left UFC 5-1 and went to pride not a losing streak. They dont test for roids in pride ( coleman and baroni ) plus baroni beat 3 nobodys in pride, everyone of them had a sub par record. coleman is 9-4 in pride and was 6-3 in ufc, sounds almost the same to me. coleman won his first 6 fights in UFC. maybe you can say baroni and coleman whicn i think they left for roids (just my opinion) but not vitor or wand, no argument there.

Wand had fought and one?he beat Tony Petarra.That's it.If winning one fight out of three isn't a losing streak what is it?He had already been in the UFC before he fought Tito ,but he started his carear in the UFC with a loss to Vitor.He didn't leave the UFC on a win.His last fight in the UFC was a loss to Tito.I was talking about Vitors recent move to pride he fought at PRIDE-Total Elimination 2005 and PRIDE-Critical Coutdown Absolute. He lost at Total Elimination ,but at Critical Countdown he KOed Yoshiki Takahashi in 36 seconds.After just losing 3 out of his last 5 fights and the Randy fight didn't really count so he lost 3 out of last 4 fights.Coieman left the UFC b/c he was on 3 straight losing streak in the UFC.He then went to pride and had a 6 fight win streak.Baroni left the UFC b/c he was on a 4 fight losing streak he than went to pride and won 3 straight fights.

[NinjaShogunRua]

Baroni has never won 3 in a row in Pride. His record is 3-2 in Pride, not like he is dominating over there or something.

Funny how no one mentioned Murilo Bustamante who was 3-1 in UFC and their Middleweight champ, then he dumped the belt and went to Pride to lose his 1st 3 fights. Or Jens Pulver who was an undefeated UFC Champion who is only 2-2 in Pride. It goes both ways. Not all guys from UFC have success in Pride.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

Baroni has never won 3 in a row in Pride. His record is 3-2 in Pride, not like he is dominating over there or something.

Funny how no one mentioned Murilo Bustamante who was 3-1 in UFC and their Middleweight champ, then he dumped the belt and went to Pride to lose his 1st 3 fights. Or Jens Pulver who was an undefeated UFC Champion who is only 2-2 in Pride. It goes both ways. Not all guys from UFC have success in Pride.

that's what I said earlier it works both ways ,but Nole keeps acting like it's never happned.What I meant to write is that Baroni than went on to win 3 out of his 1st 4 fights in Pride.

[Big Daddy Duker]

I think that's the point, Ninja. I don't think there are many guys out there who will tell you that UFC is "where the big boys play" as compared to Pride. There are definitely some people (at least on this message board) who will say the opposite, however. I think the point is that it isn't that black and white. Both leagues have had guys go the other way and do better. Neither league is hands down "better" than the other. That said, UFC is doing itself no favors (in terms of being viewed as having legit badasses) by crowding its ranks with these TUF dorks.