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[NinjaShogunRua]

I just hate all the Pride vs UFC BS. I'm a fan of both. To me it's more of the guys that you fight, not really the organization. There are great, world-class fighters in each organization. Both orgs have their positives and negatives. I'll just leave it at that.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

I just hate all the Pride vs UFC BS. I'm a fan of both. To me it's more of the guys that you fight, not really the organization. There are great, world-class fighters in each organization. Both orgs have their positives and negatives. I'll just leave it at that.

Very well said.Now if we could just get Nole to understand this everything would be perfect.

[mattsoper]

Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

I just hate all the Pride vs UFC BS. I'm a fan of both. To me it's more of the guys that you fight, not really the organization. There are great, world-class fighters in each organization. Both orgs have their positives and negatives. I'll just leave it at that.

Well Said

[Matt Boone]

Coleman was the HW king of PRIDE when he jumped. He won at the time the biggest almost fantasy tournament you could imagine. He had plenty of success early on, before their Heavyweight division exploded. Back when it was him, Kerr, and Vovchanchyn running the show at HW, with Herring on his way up, and Nogueira about to come in and change the whole game up.

Baroni went over and did very well considering the matches they put him in. Chonan, Minowa, Kondo....whoever else those are the one's I remember off the top of my head. For him only being in Bushido thus far, that's among the top guys they got in Bushido at his weight. He's rumored to be back in the WWGP to someone pulling out, I don't remember who - maybe Chonan, but if he's back in he'll be in there against the best of the best with Kang, Filho, etc. running around in the tourney still.

[yumitree]

baroni's first four matches in bushido were (not in order) chonan, minowa, kondo and a rematch loss to minowa. his rumored return to the wwgp is to replace chonan who got a broken eyesocket in his match with villasenor. i kinda think it's bs to bring baroni back and not villasenor who lost a close split decision to chonan, while baroni lost a unanimous decision to misaki.

[Noob]

Originally Posted by mattsoper

Well Said

Agreed.

[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

1st of all Sylvia wouldn't stand a chance with Fedor with that being said.Pride has way better HW's I'll give them that.LHW's pretty even ,but i'd give a slight edge to the UFC(this was made easier by the fact that rampage left) MW is pretty even/Henderson is better than Ace IMO ,but the UFC has more depth than pride,WW-no contest UFC dominates,LW the UFC is just starting out and already has a phenominal division.I'm tired of everyone saying Pride is so much better than the UFC.They're both good.The only thing pride really has over the UFC is the HW divsion. I doubt that 9 out of ten Pride fighters would beat a UFC guy.Maybe in the HW division ,but just choosing a guy at random from the UFC and a guy at random from Pride and you'll probably have a pretty even match up.

THIS IS THE TRUTH RIGHT HERE... FUCK ALL THE BULL SHIT... PRIDE RULES IN HEAVY WHIEGHTS... I THNK AA WOULD DO GOOD IN PRIDE... AND UFC RULES THE WW... THERE PRETTY MUCH EVEN EVERYWHERE ELSE.. ECCEPT LW... UFC IS GETTING WAY TO STACKED!!!!

[Noob]

Originally Posted by CHUCKtheCHAMP

THIS IS THE TRUTH RIGHT HERE... FUCK ALL THE BULL SHIT... PRIDE RULES IN HEAVY WHIEGHTS... I THNK AA WOULD DO GOOD IN PRIDE... AND UFC RULES THE WW... THERE PRETTY MUCH EVEN EVERYWHERE ELSE.. ECCEPT LW... UFC IS GETTING WAY TO STACKED!!!!

Anyone else find this guy obnoxious?

[nole]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Wand had fought and one?he beat Tony Petarra.That's it.If winning one fight out of three isn't a losing streak what is it?He had already been in the UFC before he fought Tito ,but he started his carear in the UFC with a loss to Vitor.He didn't leave the UFC on a win.His last fight in the UFC was a loss to Tito.I was talking about Vitors recent move to pride he fought at PRIDE-Total Elimination 2005 and PRIDE-Critical Coutdown Absolute. He lost at Total Elimination ,but at Critical Countdown he KOed Yoshiki Takahashi in 36 seconds.After just losing 3 out of his last 5 fights and the Randy fight didn't really count so he lost 3 out of last 4 fights.Coieman left the UFC b/c he was on 3 straight losing streak in the UFC.He then went to pride and had a 6 fight win streak.Baroni left the UFC b/c he was on a 4 fight losing streak he than went to pride and won 3 straight fights.

look at wands record, after he lost to vitor he went to IVC and then came back to UFC and won, then he went to pride. A LOSING STREAK IS LOSING 3 OR MORE FIGHTS IN A ROW. Vitor went to pride as a winner in UFC so what are you talking about, he was 5-1 then he went to pride and was 4-1 and then returned to the UFC. So he didnt goto pride on a losing streak either. I have already talked about coleman and baroni, they left because UFC cracked down on roids, my opinion

[nole]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Duker

I think that's the point, Ninja. I don't think there are many guys out there who will tell you that UFC is "where the big boys play" as compared to Pride. There are definitely some people (at least on this message board) who will say the opposite, however. I think the point is that it isn't that black and white. Both leagues have had guys go the other way and do better. Neither league is hands down "better" than the other. That said, UFC is doing itself no favors (in terms of being viewed as having legit badasses) by crowding its ranks with these TUF dorks.

thank you