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[Ry-Jon Jinn]

I think, in the first fight with Chuck, he did not fight with his strengths. But in a rematch, he would take the overated Liddel down and pound the crap out out of him. His ground and pound is the best in the world. But the funny thing is, i think he will loose to Shamrock tommorow night via submission. I hate Tito Ortiz, but he is the best in the world at his weight class once he gets his opponet down on the mat. Relentless Punishment!

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Ry-Jon Jinn

I think, in the first fight with Chuck, he did not fight with his strengths. But in a rematch, he would take the overated Liddel down and pound the crap out out of him. His ground and pound is the best in the world. But the funny thing is, i think he will loose to Shamrock tommorow night via submission. I hate Tito Ortiz, but he is the best in the world at his weight class once he gets his opponet down on the mat. Relentless Punishment!

let me get this straight.You think Tito can beat Chuck Liddell a guy who KOed him in there last fight ,but not beat a washed up has been he's already beat the crap out of?His ground and pound the best in the world?We saw how effective it was against Couture huh?lmao.Tito was never that good.He had hand picked opponents when he was champ. b/c Dana was his manger.He never faced any of the top guys at the time.He faced middle card guys and averages fighters.Not the best fighters at the time.

[Kewl144]

I'm not sure that Chuck will have the title after UFC 62. And even if he does, I dont think Tito will be given a title shot that quickly.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Kewl144

I'm not sure that Chuck will have the title after UFC 62. And even if he does, I dont think Tito will be given a title shot that quickly.

Tito will get a rematch with Chuck after Chuck ktfo Babalu.B/c who else does the UFC have?This is a big money fight So this is the fight they'll make after Tito wins a descion over Ken and Chuck KOes Babalu.

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Tito will get a rematch with Chuck after Chuck ktfo Babalu.B/c who else does the UFC have?This is a big money fight So this is the fight they'll make after Tito wins a descion over Ken and Chuck KOes Babalu.

The light-heavy weight division is bigger than the few fighters who are showcased on TUF seasons. And I still dont think Chuck will make it past Sobral. But it's all pointless speculation until it happens in August.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Kewl144

The light-heavy weight division is bigger than the few fighters who are showcased on TUF seasons. And I still dont think Chuck will make it past Sobral. But it's all pointless speculation until it happens in August.

Who's in the UFC LHW division?Tito,Chuck,Babalu,and a shit load of TUF guys.

[Ry-Jon Jinn]

Well i love Shamrock, and just have a feeling that he will submit Tito, then retire ala Jordan from the NBA. But the sad thing is that if he gets pounded again from Tito, then he will want to keep fighting until he goes out on top. As far as that punk Tito, i just think he will shock everyone, and take out Chuck Lidell. I could care less if he does or does not, but i actually think he is underated, and is about to peak as a fighter. By the way, what are Frank Shamrock, and Guy Mezger up to nowadays? And who is Rich Franklin going up against next?

[nole]

I have a feeling ken might win but tito could not take chuck. Tito is scared of chuck thats why before the first fight he was crying about how chuck was his friend and we promised not to fight each other, WAWAWA

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Ry-Jon Jinn

Well i love Shamrock, and just have a feeling that he will submit Tito, then retire ala Jordan from the NBA. But the sad thing is that if he gets pounded again from Tito, then he will want to keep fighting until he goes out on top. As far as that punk Tito, i just think he will shock everyone, and take out Chuck Lidell. I could care less if he does or does not, but i actually think he is underated, and is about to peak as a fighter. By the way, what are Frank Shamrock, and Guy Mezger up to nowadays? And who is Rich Franklin going up against next?

Frank recently had a fight against Caesar Gracie.He won by KO in the 1st. I don't know what happened to guy.He was supposed to fight Tito at UFC 51 ,but had to pull out for some reason and Cote fought Tito instead.

[Ry-Jon Jinn]

So Frank is still whooping butt somewhere else? And Mezger is still around, but just has not fought for a while? And i love your pic of Randy. I live up here in Portland OR, and a guy a work with fights in the MMA fights up here and has trained a little bit with him. He said he is a great all around guy, and that he is very down to earth, and caring and considerate of others. I guess thats why they call him a true hero.