Shamrock was screwed - Page 3

Rhino_Man · 07-09-2006, 04:39 AM

Anyone notice it looked like Hers Dean was huddling over the fighters when Tito backed Shamrock into the cage?? Anyone think maybe he was told to watch out for Shamrock???

Also, the elbows where rough. Shamrocks face already looked like he went 5 rounds.

Kewl144 · 07-09-2006, 06:33 AM

Shamrock didnt move his hands. The fighters in the other fights did. It's really as simple as that. Ask yourselves one question: why didnt Shamrock at leasts try to cover his head and move his hands instead of leaving his head completely open?

Kewl144 · 07-09-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBranMan

he wasn't defending himself, but thats because his arm was stuck behind tito's leg. you can clearly see him moving his arm to attempt protection.

So by your own assessment Shamrock wasnt defending himself so the stoppage was a good one. And I dont know what fight you were watching, but you might want to watch it again if you think Shamrock's arm was stuck behind Tito's leg since Tito was in Ken's guard.

theone · 07-09-2006, 06:46 AM

No way. They let the first fight go on after the guy bleed all over the mat. If Shamrock was hurt so bad I would have expected him to get up and stagger, but he popped up like no one had even hit him. Tito was winning, but he did not hurt Shamrock.

kickass32 · 07-09-2006, 06:50 AM

Oh come on, Shamrock was hurt....and while I agree the fight was stopped early, the outcome would have been the same 10-20 seconds later, only Shamrocks eyes would have been closed.

Kewl144 · 07-09-2006, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by theone

No way. They let the first fight go on after the guy bleed all over the mat. If Shamrock was hurt so bad I would have expected him to get up and stagger, but he popped up like no one had even hit him. Tito was winning, but he did not hurt Shamrock.

Edwards was trying to defend himself. He wasnt eating elbows with his hands not moving.

theone · 07-09-2006, 06:55 AM

I think that we got screwed more then Shamrock did. I lost $40 to see a match that was stopped too soon. If you made the point that Tito would have won anyway I would not disagree. Did you see Chuck in audience, he could not believe it. I also think that Tito got screw because the way the fight ended takes away from Tito in the eyes of many people. If Shamrock would have bleed it would have been more justifiable. We had bets at my house and the winner did not take the money they won because of the way it ended.

theone · 07-09-2006, 06:57 AM

Well then let it go the extra time.

Masscore · 07-09-2006, 07:15 AM

At first I thought it was a horrible call and so did a house hold of my friends. We where all pissed off but it was pretty much agreed that it didn't matter because Ortiz was going to rip Shamrock apart anyway. But at the end of the night with cool heads when they showed the replay at the end of the show we all agreed that the call was the right call. After the first elbow Shamrock went limp and didn't even attempt to block his face. Ortiz then landed 5 more hard elbows. The fight had to be stopped, Shamrock was not even trying to defend himself.

Now I am pissed off at Shamrock. He gets up like nothing happened and tried to ruin the victory for Ortiz. Just like he did in his last fight against Skaruka(sp?). Anyone else see that fight? Nearly the same thing happened, he got rocked, went limp, the ref stopped it and then he bounces up acting like a fuckin idiot saying he was screwed. If I am Ortiz I don't waste my time fucking Shamrock up for a third time. Its time for him to move on and fight Sobral, Liddell, or Silva.

Kewl144 · 07-09-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theone

I think that we got screwed more then Shamrock did. I lost $40 to see a match that was stopped too soon. If you made the point that Tito would have won anyway I would not disagree. Did you see Chuck in audience, he could not believe it. I also think that Tito got screw because the way the fight ended takes away from Tito in the eyes of many people. If Shamrock would have bleed it would have been more justifiable. We had bets at my house and the winner did not take the money they won because of the way it ended.

So if you saw blood it would have been ok? Maybe you should do a little research regarding head injuries. On a side note, compare this fight to Ken's fight against Franklin and we see the same thing happening. Ken gets hit by one shot and his hands stop moving and he just lays there. Anyway, i'm sure we'll see them fight again because Tito knows that he can get a lot of money for another rematch.

p.s - Ken was bleeding but I couldnt tell if it was from his head or his ear...but blood was dripping on his shoulder.

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