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[sgthorse]

probably to himself! listen i hate the fuckin guy and im glad tito whipped his ass but you gotta give him credit for even getting in there with a guy like tito. kens too much of a warrior to give up now but he should just hang it up and realize hes had a long and admirable career even though i have never been a fan of his.

[jmack123]

i agree even though i'm a huge fan of his. I do think that herb dean stopped the fight a tad too early but Shamrock should bow out because age is seriously catching up with him

[jdroom112]

I think age is a facter but after watching him coach on UF he has shown that he has no work ethic and is only there for the money and his stupid vendeta against Tito. I really thought Tito was a cocky punk but after seeing him on UF I have so much respect for him becuase of the love he has the business and his work ethic. Ken should retire before he really gets hurt and embaresed by Tito once again.

[TapOut27]

Originally Posted by jdroom112

I think age is a facter but after watching him coach on UF he has shown that he has no work ethic and is only there for the money and his stupid vendeta against Tito. I really thought Tito was a cocky punk but after seeing him on UF I have so much respect for him becuase of the love he has the business and his work ethic. Ken should retire before he really gets hurt and embaresed by Tito once again.

Ken has an extremely strong work ethic. What the fighters have to go through in the lions den is ridiculous. Ken just didnt work his fighters cardio much, and it didnt help that they always complained about getting banged up a bit.

[Kal-El]

i can kinda see why shamrock didnt work their cardio bcuz if they thought in 6 weeks they were gonna get crazy cardio then theyre idiots, they shuda hav already been in top shape b4 the show started, but ken was suposed to teach them shit, he didnt, tito showed them alot.....in the end, i still hate shamrock, i dont even consider him a legend, and i hav no idea why he would name himself the worlds most dangerous man

Originally Posted by sgthorse

probably to himself! listen i hate the fuckin guy and im glad tito whipped his ass but you gotta give him credit for even getting in there with a guy like tito. kens too much of a warrior to give up now but he should just hang it up and realize hes had a long and admirable career even though i have never been a fan of his.

With all of this talk, and especially the way the fight ended, it seems inevitable that there will be some kind of rematch. So... we'll get to see Shamrock get his ass kicked AGAIN... not so bad, eh?

[darkmanfb44]

I lost alot of respect for him after watching TUF as well. whether it was an act or truelife, Tito won alot of new fans from that show and Shamrock lost alot

[absoface78]

I thought the fight was stopped a little early, but definitely should not be another rematch. Tito needs to get on with his career, and Ken should probably retire. I like Ken, but I just don't know if he should keep losing at the twilight of his career.

[duran]

The problem is that now we will be subjected to a lifetime of the childish fingerpointing and name calling directed by Shamrock to Ortiz. If you are a fan of the sport and check MMA websites, you can't escape it. Punch Ken Shamrock in the YOUTUBE search and see how many Shamrock-Tito confrontations there are. I wish the fight would have gone another 15 seconds to save us all from the forthcoming torture of hearing this guy cry for the rest of his life. My prediction? Frank Shamrock versus Ortiz 2 after Tito's contract with UFC is up. This will give Ken Shamrock another forum to call names and act like that.

[hops69]

it seems to me that its just the cool thing to bash shamrock these days... many of you need to look at things w/o all ur biases in place... shamrock no work ethic? that is just a redic statement, as pointed out earlier the lions den is the real deal and there is no way he would still be able to be competing if he didnt take this serioulsy and put hard work in ... the worlds most dangerous man? he didnt name himself that, it came about in a tv special..
http://www.harrisonline.com/intvws/1...-fighting.html

in regards to TUF, the main reason shamrock participated was Tito but that doesnt mean he didnt care about the other fighters or not try to help them, none of us were part of that show and have no idea what each man realy did to help there fighters grow and what not... that show is REALITY TV, so give me a break they show what they want to show, they manipulate the settings, the circumstances, and how ppl come across.

i feel bad that everyone has jumped on the bandwagon and bashed him... while i do agree that he is getting old and is a shell of his former self i still dont believe that he shold be so disrespected. he has done a lot for this sport and msot certainly deserves his HOF status...

this was not a post to try and say taht anyones opinions or views are wrong bc everyone is entitled to an opinion, i was just trying to get you to look at it from another perspective... while i may not agree with some of the views displayed on this board, i most certainly respect everyones opinion and input. thanks for your time.