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[GracieAlumni]

ok we all know Leben beat patrick cote. that was a bit of a shocker for all of us.... How can we all say after one good fight of taking blows that his jaw is IRON????? I mean yeah it was pretty impressive. but i mean how would he fair agianst The Crow or Tanner's Elbows? How would he be agianst Jeremy Horn.

[Tystick357]

Well he's proven to be a tough guy and he can take the hits, you can't deny that. The only way to know for sure is if he fights those guys and gets tested by them.

He's got the reputation of the iron chin among other fighters, and I doubt it comes easy. And with the elbows I wouldn't think as much along the lines of pure KO rather than (T)KO/Doctor Stoppage.

[killerinstinct]

jeremy horn wouldn't ko leben.he has some good knees and kicks(just ask griffin),but i couldn't see him KOing leben.Cote punches hard as hell i don't know a whole lotta guys that could've tooken those punches.Leben took them smiling even touching gloves with cote during the exchange.the crow or tanner could cut him open with those elbows ,but i don't know about KOing him.Tanner would have a better chance KOing him with knees than elbows.

[Alvin]

Leban is a good puncher, but I think he's going to be a bleeder.

He cut up real good against Florian so I can't see how someone like crow's not going to finish him.

[killerinstinct]

He was cut up against kenflo ,but that was a fucking haymaker of an elbow. that thing was sickening plus kenflo has some pretty sharp elbows just ask that one guy he beat from tuf 1...i can't think of his name.

[killerinstinct]

Alex caralexis

[Matt Boone]

Guys who have that "can't be knocked out" appeal have the same sort of aura that someone with the reputation of being a guy that "can knock anyone out" in that they have an invincible type thing going for them. Think Leben, Cabbage, Fujita, Hunt, etc. guys with built reputations around being able to take anything and keep going. On the second half of that, think Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Mirko CroCop before the Nog fight, V. Silva, etc. There's just something appealing about someone you think either can't be knocked out by anybody, or someone who can knockout anybody. Watching Leben take those shots and smile/touch gloves is an awesome moment, that as he goes on will become one of his more memorable clips.

[GracieAlumni]

well if Leben doesnt have any competition in MW division.. I mean hell with a paper champion like Rich Franklin... If i didnt know any better i would be all on Lebens Nuts too. bunch of Fag lovers.

[Alvin]

I have to say I'm shocked at the anti-Franklyn brigade on this forum.

What's wrong with the guy? He polished off Tanner twice easily, he whooped Loiseau, DeWees, Quarry & Shamrock & he's only lost the once.

[killerinstinct]

there's number of guys at mw in the ufc that could take his title.he's overated and looks identical to jim carey.