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[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by prophet665

Wow...was it a ransom situation? Random crime? That is a real aweful situation.

As for him worrying about his sister, well, if it happened a little closer to the fight I think you would have an arguement that it affected him during the fight.

It did effect the fight.Vitor has never been the same since.If Vitor would've fought Tito when he was champ He would've won by KO.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by prophet665

Ok...since I am not familiar with all the news and gossip in MMA, let me make sure I have things straight. Please remeber, I am not trying to be a smart ass, just trying to get the full story:

1. Tito beat Tanner, but Tanner never got a rematch. Could it be that there were other fights already signed and he didn't get a rematch for contractual obligations? How much control does any fighter really have over who he fights?

2. Lee Murray knocked Tito out in a street fight. Ok...was it a fair fight? Were there any impartial witnesses? Was it a sucker punch? Did he have a weapon?

3. Tito fought Vitor Belfor (sp?) and you are complaining? He had no one else to fight? That sounds like a weak arguement to me. Vitor has no business fighting if his mind was (justifiably!) elsewhere. I don't know how much the mental part of a fight plays on conditioning. Making sloppy mistakes I can see; getting tired too early due to his mind not being ion the fight seems strange to me. Did they ever find his sister?

Here's my rebuttle.

1.When your the champ like Tito was you have some say in who you fight (Sylvia requested the recent rematch with AA for example).Tito had a lot of say in who he fought b/c Dana White was his manager when he was champ.

2.The Lee Murray incident was a fair fight.

3.Going through something like that can and did effect his conditioning. I'm sure his mind was else where in training too.Which would explain the poor copnditioning.

[matto]

just like ken said, he talks shit before every fight, if he wins he brags and cries and if he loses he he cries and acts all nice. but he was a very good coach during tuf 3, i felt bad for the guys that trained with ken, because they missed out on a very good training experience.

tito pre fight

if he wins

if he loses :

[killerinstinct]

if you want to read about the Lee/Tito incident follw the link and read the 1st post.

http://forums.mmanews.com/showthread.php?t=487

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

if you want to read about the Lee/Tito incident follw the link and read the 1st post.

http://forums.mmanews.com/showthread.php?t=487

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Kewl144

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

Tito getting KTFO is pretty funny!!!

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Tito getting KTFO is pretty funny!!!

It reads like the wet dream of some pre-school kid. By the way, Lee said in an interview that he never knocked Tito out...so what are you talking about?

[killerinstinct]

Tito wasn't completely out.He rolled up like a pussy and was lucky that Hughes was there to save him from, any more damage.

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

Tito wasn't completely out.He rolled up like a pussy and was lucky that Hughes was there to save him from, any more damage.

But you just said a few posts up that he was KTFO(knocked the fuck out)? So you lied? And you were there? What was it like seeing "the courageous Matt Hughes" throwing himself on top of a wounded Tito?

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Kewl144

But you just said a few posts up that he was KTFO(knocked the fuck out)? So you lied? And you were there? What was it like seeing "the courageous Matt Hughes" throwing himself on top of a wounded Tito?

I didn't lie.If it was in mma he would've been TKOed and being TKOed is simialar to being KOed.