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Old 07-17-2006, 05:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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u really think that? Monson is a rhino like Fujita...Vera is gonna have a handful.
I totally agree, Monson is an animal in the octagon. Vera would definately have a hard time with him.
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I totally agree, Monson is an animal in the octagon. Vera would definately have a hard time with him.
wow... Monsoon beating vera???? HA HA HA!.... Vera is BIG TIME!!! He beat silva's ass convincenly.... Sylvia has a rough time....... Vera would MURDER Monsoon... he gets tested everytime he fights then he kicks their asses... cause hes the man!!!!!!!
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i want the ufc to pay for fedor or cro cop. seeing tim beat is pretty good but i want to see him get ktfo
yeah, ideally i'd like to see Cro Cop beat sylvia, but i don't know if i can wait that long.
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wow... Monsoon beating vera???? HA HA HA!.... Vera is BIG TIME!!! He beat silva's ass convincenly.... Sylvia has a rough time....... Vera would MURDER Monsoon... he gets tested everytime he fights then he kicks their asses... cause hes the man!!!!!!!
Admittedly Vera is a great fighter. He has had some awesome fights so far. But I think Monson has more experience, a better all-round game and the advantage of being really powerful. Not taking anything away from Vera but i think Monson would be to much for him in the end. Would be a great fight to see though!!
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Admittedly Vera is a great fighter. He has had some awesome fights so far. But I think Monson has more experience, a better all-round game and the advantage of being really powerful. Not taking anything away from Vera but i think Monson would be to much for him in the end. Would be a great fight to see though!!
i think vera is for heavyweights the same that gsp was for welterweight. no matter who you put in front of him he gets by. i think he needs a couple of better fighters before he takes on monson
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i think vera is for heavyweights the same that gsp was for welterweight. no matter who you put in front of him he gets by. i think he needs a couple of better fighters before he takes on monson
Good point, who would you say would be good for his next match??
Marcio Cruz?
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I would love to see Monson put Sylvia to sleep, but I just don't see it happening, there is almost a full foot in terms of height advantage(he might short enough to duck punches but Sylvia can kick, Just ask Tra T.), and Sylvia is hard to take down... However, if Monson can get Sylvia on the ground there is no chance that Sylvia's guard is good enough to hold off one of the best submission fighters in the world.

As far as Vera goes, I would like to see him fight the likes of a Frank Mir or perhaps Marcio Cruz. I think he needs to fight someone with world class ground skills
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Fedor and Cro Cop would definately smash Silvia...but how do you think a fight with another big guy like James Thomson would go??
I think Thompson is a really capable fighter, that actually has the potential to be a decent matchup. My feeling is that Thompson would overpower and destroy him, but after the loss to Ironhead, I dunno.
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i would really like to see Vera a little more before i call him unbeatable. i think it is a little shortsighted to say that he would destroy monson
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I would love to see Monson put Sylvia to sleep, but I just don't see it happening, there is almost a full foot in terms of height advantage(he might short enough to duck punches but Sylvia can kick, Just ask Tra T.), and Sylvia is hard to take down... However, if Monson can get Sylvia on the ground there is no chance that Sylvia's guard is good enough to hold off one of the best submission fighters in the world.

As far as Vera goes, I would like to see him fight the likes of a Frank Mir or perhaps Marcio Cruz. I think he needs to fight someone with world class ground skills
I reckon a Silvia/Monson fight would go Monsons way because Tim is so bad on the ground. Monson has a hard head and would probably be able to weather the storm long enough to get him down. Also his striking isn't to bad.

As for Vera, I think he would absolutely murder Mir. Mir's form has been laughable since his return. Yep, the bike accident would definately have a huge part in his lack of form but still....he's a shadow of the fighter he was. Hopefully he can pull it together soon. When he was fit he was an awesome fighter to watch.
I reckon Marcio Cruz is probably next on Vera's hit-list, but Cruz has been improving quickly as we saw with his thrashing of Mir. I'd have to go Vera's way if that fight ever happened though, he definately has the stand-up advantage.
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