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07-17-2006, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by flashy I think Thompson is a really capable fighter, that actually has the potential to be a decent matchup. My feeling is that Thompson would overpower and destroy him, but after the loss to Ironhead, I dunno. | After his loss to Fujita he seemed confident, said he would learn from the loss. I totally agree with ya though, the power difference between Silvia and Thompson would be huge, just look at the difference in build. Plus the way he fights, Silvia always looks bad when he is rushed....AA did it to him a few times and he doesn't look like he likes being on the back foot.
It would be a great addition to what looks like a UFC vs PRIDE event in November.
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07-17-2006, 07:40 PM
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are you people serious u think monson can beat silva i mean come on some of u people are just silva haters and dont realize tim is fuckin huge and monson is really small tim has a HUGE reach advatage and i dont think monson will be able to keep silva down....... if he can even take silva down he is really ..... monson is short so u will see alot of knees and kicks mabe from silva because he them and they could knock you out.......he is so much taller then monson that his knees dont have to go that high so he has more power to them with a hard knee not goin all the way up u will go to sleep.............so winner and just dominating that fight tim syliva by k.o.(knock out) in the first round
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07-17-2006, 07:42 PM
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i think monson will take it to the ground and take advantage sylvias weak ground game
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07-17-2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by manntis818 are you people serious u think monson can beat silva i mean come on some of u people are just silva haters and dont realize tim is fuckin huge and monson is really small tim has a HUGE reach advatage and i dont think monson will be able to keep silva down....... if he can even take silva down he is really ..... monson is short so u will see alot of knees and kicks mabe from silva because he them and they could knock you out.......he is so much taller then monson that his knees dont have to go that high so he has more power to them with a hard knee not goin all the way up u will go to sleep.............so winner and just dominating that fight tim syliva by k.o.(knock out) in the first round | 1. Not a Silvia hater, just prefer Monson.
2. HUGE reach advantage minus a decent ground game + a serious Jiu Jitsu fighter with huge strength and a tough head = Monson submitting Silvia in the second round.
But one thing i think we all missed was that Tim is now training with Pat Miletich and Matt Hughes.....if the fight were to happen maybe Silvias ground game could be a suprise to all!!
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07-17-2006, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Monson doesn't stand a chance.The size difference is tremendous.He's going to be eating jabs untill he can't eat jabs no more.Sylvia is going to win by KO. | I second this, reach advantage way too much. I see ko by knee or shin to monsoons face.
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07-17-2006, 10:37 PM
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Monson should go back down to 205.He's too short to be a HW.
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07-17-2006, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by manntis818 are you people serious u think monson can beat silva i mean come on some of u people are just silva haters and dont realize tim is fuckin huge and monson is really small tim has a HUGE reach advatage and i dont think monson will be able to keep silva down....... if he can even take silva down he is really ..... monson is short so u will see alot of knees and kicks mabe from silva because he them and they could knock you out.......he is so much taller then monson that his knees dont have to go that high so he has more power to them with a hard knee not goin all the way up u will go to sleep.............so winner and just dominating that fight tim syliva by k.o.(knock out) in the first round | first of all, it's Sylvia, not Silva...you must have Wandy on the brain or something. second, Monson is one of my favorite fighters, so yes i am one of the "Sylvia haters" you refer to, because he believes he is better then he really is. You all who think Monson doesn't stand a chance, will be crappin' yourselves when he presses Sylvia back against the fence, double legs him, slams the sh*t out of him, and then subs him...WAR MONSON!!!
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07-18-2006, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Monson doesn't stand a chance.The size difference is tremendous.He's going to be eating jabs untill he can't eat jabs no more.Sylvia is going to win by KO. | I agree..I think the height difference and the reach advantage is just too much for monson to handle...I am pulling for him but I think he will get KO'd sylvia is just to big for him
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07-18-2006, 04:42 AM
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Any of you guys that think Monson will lose just because of Tim's height or reach advantage must have never fought a bigger, taller opponent in your life. That can be a huge disadvantage for the tall guy if you get in close and get a hold of him and take him down.
It is difficult for the tall guy to get their underhooks in because they can't properly get their arms under the shorter guy's arms to trap them, and the shorter guy's lower power base and center of gravity can really screw a tall guy up during a takedown.
I remember clearly having to break up many brawls between big tall clumsy guys and shorter, stockier, faster more agressive guys and the tall guy was usually getting his ass handed to him while he was on his back.
Whether it was in a bar, at a sporting event or whatever...it was generally all the same. Big guy mouths off to small guy, small guy doesn't back down, big guy starts fight, small guy takes big guy down quick and starts customizing his face, invites him to take a nap, or adds a new bend to a bone or joint somewhere that nature previously hadn't provided.
Monson has made a career out of dropping tall big guys on their back and making them tap out for a long time...and his short losing streak started years ago when his old trainers and managers convinced him to drop down to LHW, and immediately ended quickly when he went to ATT and they told him to get back up to HW and stay there where he belongs.
Since then he has been undefeated in 16 fights, and most of them were by submitting guys Tim's size.
You guys that say he can't deal with Tim's size, Tim's height, Tim's reach, Tim's hands, etc....obviously have never seen Monson fight in person.
It's always about training and experience, not media hype and size...and Monson clearly has the advantage there.
It's been said a lot already about this fight...but I guess I still need to repeat it: It never the size of the dog in the fight...it's the size of the fight in the dog that makes a winner.
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Originally Posted by #1taz Any of you guys that think Monson will lose just because of Tim's height or reach advantage must have never fought a bigger, taller opponent in your life. That can be a huge disadvantage for the tall guy if you get in close and get a hold of him and take him down.
It is difficult for the tall guy to get their underhooks in because they can't properly get their arms under the shorter guy's arms to trap them, and the shorter guy's lower power base and center of gravity can really screw a tall guy up during a takedown.
I remember clearly having to break up many brawls between big tall clumsy guys and shorter, stockier, faster more agressive guys and the tall guy was usually getting his ass handed to him while he was on his back.
Whether it was in a bar, at a sporting event or whatever...it was generally all the same. Big guy mouths off to small guy, small guy doesn't back down, big guy starts fight, small guy takes big guy down quick and starts customizing his face, invites him to take a nap, or adds a new bend to a bone or joint somewhere that nature previously hadn't provided.
Monson has made a career out of dropping tall big guys on their back and making them tap out for a long time...and his short losing streak started years ago when his old trainers and managers convinced him to drop down to LHW, and immediately ended quickly when he went to ATT and they told him to get back up to HW and stay there where he belongs.
Since then he has been undefeated in 16 fights, and most of them were by submitting guys Tim's size.
You guys that say he can't deal with Tim's size, Tim's height, Tim's reach, Tim's hands, etc....obviously have never seen Monson fight in person.
It's always about training and experience, not media hype and size...and Monson clearly has the advantage there.
It's been said a lot already about this fight...but I guess I still need to repeat it: It never the size of the dog in the fight...it's the size of the fight in the dog that makes a winner. | unfortuneatly monsoon hasnt faced anyone with the size and skill of silvia. silvia is a smart fighter, hes gonna be prepared to use his takedown defence. monsoon was finshed by ricco rodriguez and hes not known as a heavy hitter?? whats he gonna do against the maniac?
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