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[Dat Dude]

Once Vera gets past his next opponent I think we'll see him drop down to LHW. Even if Vera is against the idea of dropping down I think he will be pressured to do so by the UFC, especially if Chuck wins. My reason is that if Chuck beats Rampage, who's left at LHW. I don't know of any justifiable #1 contenders that Chuck hasn't beat yet. Bringing Vera down would solve the problem.

[scottsec]

Originally Posted by Dat Dude

Once Vera gets past his next opponent I think we'll see him drop down to LHW. Even if Vera is against the idea of dropping down I think he will be pressured to do so by the UFC, especially if Chuck wins. My reason is that if Chuck beats Rampage, who's left at LHW. I don't know of any justifiable #1 contenders that Chuck hasn't beat yet. Bringing Vera down would solve the problem.

Shogun, arona, soku, lil nog. rashad....

[Dat Dude]

Originally Posted by scottsec

Shogun, arona, soku, lil nog. rashad....

I agree with you on Shogun, Arona, Soku, and Lil Nog. I'm not quite sold on Rashad yet. If he gets past Tito then yeah. The problem with the rest of the fighters is that if you can't take every great fighter from Pride and bring them to the UFC. The level of skill in each organization has to stay competitive. That doesn't mean that these matchups couldn't happen at a supershow or that one of these fighters may switch organizations. In the event that they stay in Pride, you only get a supershow twice a year tops and a champ fights like 2-3 times a year barring injury. The UFC isn't going to have its champs only defend on the supershows. But, if they were to switch organizations then yeah they are definitely contenders.

[Dork8503]

Dana isn't going to want Arona, mostly because he is not going to be a big seller. Everyone you named is pride. There not going to strip all those fighters. Arona would get knocked out by chuck. Rashad would get knocked out in the first round. Lil Nog would get beat. Soku and Shogun would both be great fights who i wouldn't be picking chuck in. Well i would against shogun just not Soku.

Contenders for Chuck if he beats Rampage. Jardine, would love to see this because i want to see Jardine get his nose broke. Chuck wins brutal KO about 2 minutes in the first round.
Rashad, he is not ready would lose again IMO first round.
Tito, already seen that 2 times.
Lambert would also go to sleep.
Lyoto, i think would be a good fight, kind of think Lyoto would make chuck look silly until chuck KO'S him. Its a fight i would chose Lyoto in.
Wilson, another guy Chuck would KO.
Bisping, I think he actually might make it into the late first round before getting beat.
Bonnar, same thing.
Vera, Vera wins this. He is better at everything then Chuck, well besides counter punching.

[neonatural45]

Personally id take lil nog over Chuck, unless chuck catches him with a KO punch late in the fight I dont think chuck can bring anything else to the table that lil nog hasnt seen before

[Dork8503]

You know Chucks time is coming to an end too. I just don't see how he can beat someone like Vera if they ever fight. Same goes with guys like Soku and even Shogun but that would be a close fight.

Chucks bread an butter has been his striking well whatever you want to call it. But now better fighters are coming along that are going to give Chuck hell. I just don't think Chuck has it in him anymore. If he beats Rampage he should just retire because i don't see them same desire he used to have.

[baba]

I've never seen Vera take a good shot. And yea he's solid but imo hasn't faced any true top level competition. As far as being better than Chuck in everything ... thats subjective. This is a fight I'd like to see.

[Dat Dude]

Originally Posted by dork8503

You know Chucks time is coming to an end too. I just don't see how he can beat someone like Vera if they ever fight. Same goes with guys like Soku and even Shogun but that would be a close fight.

Chucks bread an butter has been his striking well whatever you want to call it. But now better fighters are coming along that are going to give Chuck hell. I just don't think Chuck has it in him anymore. If he beats Rampage he should just retire because i don't see them same desire he used to have.

Not only that but Chuck is getting up there in age, he'll be 38 in December. Not everyone ages as gracefully as Randy does. Chuck being a striker also doesn't lend him to being able to perform at a high level at an advanced age. Strikers thrive on accuracy, quick reflexes, and power. All of those skills get harder to maintain with age.

[twankydawg]

Originally Posted by g'nightXX

Vera was in line to get a title shot at HW before the managing fiasco. He dominated Scherner, and dominated Mir, and dominated Assuerio Silva (took Kongo & Sylvia all fight and they didn't finish him), and KO'd Justin Eilers immediately (much faster than AA or Sylvia did), so it's not just his record it's his domination up to this point over quality opponents.

If Chuck beats Rampage who would that leave at LHW for Chuck to beat? Rashad? Machida? Vera is the best, and most deserving fighter possible if Chuck beats Rampage and they don't bring in a top Pride import at LHW.

Good points though, rep'd.

It seems that some people miss the fact that Assuerio Silva was dominated and finished by Vera. Punk ass Tim barely pulled out the decision. Vera's transition and quickness is what has helped him dominate everyone he has faced. None of the HW's are as well rounded as Vera and the only LHW that is close would be Shogun but his transition isn't as top notch Vera's and as time goes on, the guys with the quickest transition will dominate the sport.

[Rufio]

The Assuerio/Vera fight was actually pretty close until the sub. And while Vera beat Fabiano Scherner, it wasn't exactly domination either.