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10-07-2007, 01:13 PM
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#31 (permalink)
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i no this is way late but if i were to redo my top 10 list id take kos off of it because he got completely out wrestled by gsp when they fought. gsp took him down 3 times and josh had none from what i remember. as a wrestler, that would have been very embarassing.
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10-10-2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Spain215 i no this is way late but if i were to redo my top 10 list id take kos off of it because he got completely out wrestled by gsp when they fought. gsp took him down 3 times and josh had none from what i remember. as a wrestler, that would have been very embarassing. | GSP didn't use wrestling takedowns to get Josh down, so I don't really agree. The first was setup by a leg kick by Koscheck and the second was Koscheck jumping gaurd with a Guillatine.
Koscheck had one nice reversal (which actually displayed great wrestling).
I think the only part where GSP actually outwrestled Koscheck is when he kept himself from going down off that crotch lift Koscheck was attempting in the third.
Besides, it seems cheap to me to say someone isn't a greta wrestler based off one fight where the wrestler was the one who was actually trying to stand and strike.
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10-10-2007, 04:46 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Spain215 i no this is way late but if i were to redo my top 10 list id take kos off of it because he got completely out wrestled by gsp when they fought. gsp took him down 3 times and josh had none from what i remember. as a wrestler, that would have been very embarassing. | None to 3? thats way off bro, GSP had 2 and Kos had 1 but Palma is right, it had nothing to do with wrestling.. one of the times GSP got on top of Kos was because Kos pulled guard, one of the stuffed takedowns was again because Kos pulled guard, GSP was getting Kos down, and beating Kos because of his strength and size and because hes a better MMA fighter then Kos, not a better wrestler.. hes more seasoned, hes smarter, he knows what hes doing.. Kos is still learning. I didnt see a domination in terms of pure wrestling in that fight, and im no wrestler.. but Palma is and he says it wasnt, I got a co-worker whos in wrestling and he says the same.. it seems everyone that has wrestled believes this to be true, so im gonna go with there opinion cuz they actually experienced wrestling.
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10-15-2007, 07:53 PM
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props to palma for sticking up for his boy against the whole board lol
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10-16-2007, 06:22 PM
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Ya, GSP kept him on his back. He's becoming better every time he competes, besides that whole Matt Serra bit.. But Josh showed some crazy brute strength when GSP was sitting on him and trying to rip his arm off for a kimura?
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