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[LefthookStcrook]

Originally Posted by TriangleChoke62

Sorry afro..im having a brain fart and dont quite understand. which guys are not good strikers? R u referring to the guys chuck has knocked out? or chuck, cro cop and wandi...cuz if ur referring to those 3 guys, i'd like to know what defines 'good striker.'

Me to, either way cop liddel and wand are all excellent strikers, and imo i dont think chuck is just a "couter striker wrestler" he has a full mma backround but he just prefers to strike, and when he does he keeps it at his own pace to land the big bomb, if you've done that your whole mma career and done nothing but KO boys and your ranked top 3 in your weight class in the world he deserves an honourbale mention for sure.

and the only reason i didnt put wand 2nd is becuase i really do think chuck woul d beat him if he survive the first barrage of bombs i think chuck would KO him running back like babalu chuck 2

[LefthookStcrook]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

im talkin about the guys Chuck has KO'd

Chuck and Wandy are good strikers.. but neither are in Cro-cop's league and Cro-cop's league has quite a large roster, Chuck and Wandy.. arent on that roster.

Agree there, Cro cops a nut, i'd love to see him pick apart Tim sylvia

[Afro]

I honestly dont think Chucks striking is why he is so good, his technique is not that good in fact ill simply label Chucks technique as "lazy" I think his wrestling is what makes him so good cuz he keeps all the fighters he faces standing, he has a good chin but very poor striking D(main reason why I cant see him bein' the best striker in the world) but no one he faced is really gonna knock him out, cuz most of the people hes faced.. are average strikers, Chuck is one of the best in the LHW division.. actually ill rephrase that HE IS the BEST in the LHW division at forcing fighters to fight his game, which is striking.. but he isnt great at striking, just good with a lot of KO power. The thing that makes Chuck better is.. when he goes up against a striker, hes good enough in wrestling to take them down IE: The overeem fight.. but Chuck's biggest challenge would be facing a guy with better striking that also has better wrestling IE: Rampage, or facing a guy with better striking and a good JJ game IE: Wandy, Shogun, and especially Lil Nogs.. out of these 3 the guy he has the best chance against would be Wandy cuz of Wandy's chin.. but against Shogun and Lil Nogs.. if your a Chuck fan just hope he never fights any of these guys, cuz he would have TROUBLE big time..

A) Shogun and Lil Nogs can outstrike Chuck and probably would

B) Chuck can take both to the ground, but will he pass any of there guards? doubt it, and can he defend there submissions? maybe he is a purple belt in BJJ but doubt hes good enough to defend for 3 to 5 rounds.. overall he'll either get submitted or outstriked against these two.. just think that there too good for him.. he can always knock one of them out but it would most likely (95% chance) come in the later rounds, where Chuck's cardio comes into play.. and his cardio isnt that good and when your goin up against guys like Shogun and Lil Nogs, there gonna work you round after round.. there not gonna pull a Jeremy Horn.

Even Ricardo Arona would give chuck trouble, thing with Arona is he leaves his chin out like crazy and his body is wide open when he strikes.. Chuck would have no problem counter-punching him but I doubt Arona would be so dumb to strike with Chuck, Arona is just so techincally sound, he doesnt have to shoot to take Chuck down.. he has many many other ways of doing so.. and if he took the fight to the ground he'd beat Chuck, but honestly.. I say Chuck would win that one.. just not a good matchup for Arona.

[sodium_nitrate]

you guys are great.

[Dork8503]

i have to agree on the most part with afro, i dont think chuck is a great striker, he is great at countering and has great ko power, i would say he is good but not great, and i dont think aleks is the best striker i wouldnt even say he is great yeah i wouldnt say he is great at all, i say cro crop is the best, i also think wandy is great and i think anderson silva is great too,
afro what do you think would happen if Anderon fought Chuck, i think anderson would out strike him and end up getting beat late in the 2nd

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by dork8503

i have to agree on the most part with afro, i dont think chuck is a great striker, he is great at countering and has great ko power, i would say he is good but not great, and i dont think aleks is the best striker i wouldnt even say he is great yeah i wouldnt say he is great at all, i say cro crop is the best, i also think wandy is great and i think anderson silva is great too,
afro what do you think would happen if Anderon fought Chuck, i think anderson would out strike him and end up getting beat late in the 2nd

I think chuck is too big for him. 205 and 185 is a big difference. thats 3 different weight classes in boxing.

[Ares]

CropCop, Silva, GSP

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

I think chuck is too big for him. 205 and 185 is a big difference. thats 3 different weight classes in boxing.

In addition to Chuck walking around at 225-230lbs whereas A. Silva is very lean so I find it doubtful that he walks around very much higher than his 185lb fighting weight.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

A) Shogun and Lil Nogs can outstrike Chuck and probably would

B) Chuck can take both to the ground, but will he pass any of there guards? doubt it, and can he defend there submissions? maybe he is a purple belt in BJJ but doubt hes good enough to defend for 3 to 5 rounds.. overall he'll either get submitted or outstriked against these two.. just think that there too good for him.. he can always knock one of them out but it would most likely (95% chance) come in the later rounds, where Chuck's cardio comes into play.. and his cardio isnt that good and when your goin up against guys like Shogun and Lil Nogs, there gonna work you round after round.. there not gonna pull a Jeremy Horn.

I'm a big fan of shogun but I would be a little worried if he faught chuck. Shogun is agreesive and his chin isn't the strongest. I would be rooting for Shogun and think he could win but I wouldn't be suprised to see him get knocked out.

[Noob]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

In addition to Chuck walking around at 225-230lbs whereas A. Silva is very lean so I find it doubtful that he walks around very much higher than his 185lb fighting weight.

A good point. I think Silva is a better striker in that he is more skilled overall, and is probably the better technical striker. No one can argue with Chuck's KO power though, and the weight difference would make it difficult to say for sure who's better without a doubt since it would give Chuck a significant advantage.