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09-18-2007, 07:51 AM
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|  In their primes: Vitor Belfort Vs. Ken Shamrock
Vitor would win IMO but it would have been a big draw and maybe a sweet fight
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09-18-2007, 04:25 PM
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| sham by heel hook
shams leg locks were brutal and vitor is no gracie
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09-18-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fedcop shams leg locks were brutal and vitor is no gracie | He was trained by them, and aint no way Shamrock is catching Vitor in a leg lock lol.
Vitor by KO, Ken was never that good.  | |
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09-18-2007, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by harlemhustla145 He was trained by them, and aint no way Shamrock is catching Vitor in a leg lock lol.
Vitor by KO, Ken was never that good. | Still, he has better wins on his resume then Vitor
Irony eh?
Im taking Ken if this fights at HW, Vitory at LHW.
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09-18-2007, 05:51 PM
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| Yea Vitor was trained by a gracie
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Originally Posted by harlemhustla145 He was trained by them, and aint no way Shamrock is catching Vitor in a leg lock lol.
Vitor by KO, Ken was never that good. | But, if you saw Vitor fight not knowing he has a bjj black belt and that he was trained by the best would you think his ground game is above average? I dont think so, Ken in his prime tooled Rutten, who some consider to be one of the best ever
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09-18-2007, 05:55 PM
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I don't see this fight going to the ground. I think Ken's ego will get in the way and he will try to duke it out with Vitor, in which case he would lose via KO
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09-18-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fedcop But, if you saw Vitor fight not knowing he has a bjj black belt and that he was trained by the best would you think his ground game is above average? I dont think so, Ken in his prime tooled Rutten, who some consider to be one of the best ever | Rutten had no ground game at the time. He had on the job training, so that doesn't say much.
And yes, Vitor's ground game isn't that good compared to how good he should be since he was trained by Gracies but Shamrock doesn't really have that good a ground game either. He doesn't do BJJ, just catch wrestling, and his sub arsenal is not that diverse. I think he can avoid them, but I've never seen him do anything other than a leg lock. Not to mention he had trouble subbing people like Dan Severn who had no BJJ training at all at the time.
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